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Sleep Toolkit: Tools for Optimizing Sleep & Sleep-Wake Timing | Huberman Lab Podcast #84



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Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast,
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where we discuss science and science-based tools
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for everyday life.
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I'm Andrew Huberman,
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and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology
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at Stanford School of Medicine.
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Today, we're talking all about sleep
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and how to optimize your sleep.
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This is a topic we've covered previously on this podcast
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in the episode called Master Your Sleep.
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However, since the airing of that episode,
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there's been some terrific new science to come out.
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I've also received thousands,
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yes, literally thousands of questions
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related to the specific protocols covered in that episode,
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as well as in the episode on jet lag and shift work.
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And while today's episode is not specifically
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about jet lag and shift work,
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we are going to cover tools that will allow you
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to shift your schedule if you need to for work or travel.
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And we will also cover tools
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that will allow you to fall back asleep
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if you happen to wake up in the middle of the night,
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or if you get a poor night's sleep,
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how to actually recover from that poor night's sleep
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more quickly, and yes indeed,
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even replace sleep that you've lost.
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So today's episode is going to be filled
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with practical tools.
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We will touch on some of the underlying science,
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but it's really designed to be a practical toolkit
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for optimizing your sleep,
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depending on your specific sleep needs.
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Various times throughout today's episode,
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I will refer to studies that form the backbone
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of the tools that I'll be describing,
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but whereas most of the podcast episodes here
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tend to be deep scientific mechanism,
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and then tools, scientific mechanism,
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and tools today, I'm mainly going to focus
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on the practical tools that anyone, indeed,
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all people I believe should use
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in order to optimize their sleep.
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Why should everybody want to optimize their sleep
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and put considerable effort into optimizing their sleep?
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Well, put simply, sleep is the foundation of mental health,
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physical health, and performance of all kinds,
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cognitive performance, physical performance, et cetera.
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It also controls things like our immune system,
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wound healing, our skin health, and our appearance.
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Whether or not we can think clearly or not,
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whether or not we will live
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as long as we possibly can or not,
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whether or not we suffer
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from dramatic age-related cognitive decline or not,
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in other words, whether or not we keep our memory as we age,
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I could go on and on about all the terrible things
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that can happen to somebody if they don't sleep well.
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Thanks to the great work of Professor Matt Walker
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at University of California, Berkeley,
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and the wonderful book that he wrote, Why We Sleep,
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I think the world is largely on board now
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that sleep is critical to our health,
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our mental health, our physical health, and our performance.
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But what's not often discussed is how great life is,
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that is, how much more focused and energetic
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and how positive our mood gets
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when we are sleeping for the appropriate amount of time
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at the appropriate depth
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and when we are doing that regularly.
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Basically, everything in life gets better
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when we're sleeping well.
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So today, I'm going to teach you the tools
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that will allow you to optimize your sleep,
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that is, get to sleep and stay asleep,
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fall back asleep if you wake up in the middle of the night,
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and adjust your sleep given the various life demands
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you may be experiencing.
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Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize that this podcast
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is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford.
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It is, however, part of my desire and effort
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Let's talk about sleep and tools to optimize your sleep.
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I want you to conceptualize yourself
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as contained within a room that has only very few windows
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or very few entry points.
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What do I mean by this?
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Well, your brain and your nervous system
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control whether or not you move or don't move.
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They control whether or not you're digesting food
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or you're not digesting food.
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They control whether or not you're stressed or not stressed,
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happy or sad, et cetera.
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All of that stuff that controls all that stuff
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is housed inside your skin and skull, et cetera.
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That might seem pretty obvious,
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but what that means is that for your brain and body
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to feel alert and focused, ready to move and exercise
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or do some work, or if your brain and body
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are going to lie down and go to sleep,
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well, that brain and body needs cues.
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It needs inputs to determine
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when to do those different things.
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And those cues and inputs arrive through a defined set
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of what I'll call stimuli,
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but you can also think of these as levers or tools.
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The main levers and tools that are going to allow you
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to control when you are awake and when you are asleep
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and to get better sleep every single night
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are light, literally photons, light energy,
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could be from sunlight, could be from artificial light.
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We will discuss those particulars in a moment,
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as well as darkness.
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That is the absence of light.
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So we've got light and dark.
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Those are two very powerful tools
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to encourage your nervous system to be in one state
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or another, meaning awake or asleep.
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Temperature is another tool or lever.
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Turns out that when your body is cooling down,
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you have a greater tendency to fall and stay asleep.
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In fact, every night when you actually sleep,
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your body is dropping by one to three degrees,
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and that drop in temperature is required.
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It's like a gate that your body has to go through
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in order for you to get into sleep.
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And in fact, the converse is also true.
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If your body heats up by one to three degrees or so,
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you will wake up.
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So you've got light, dark, temperature, food.
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And when we say food, we mean what we eat,
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when we eat, and the amount that we eat.
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Okay, so light, dark, temperature, food, exercise.
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And of course, exercise comes in different forms.
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We can do cardiovascular exercise.
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That can be low intensity, long distance exercise.
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It can be high intensity,
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so-called high intensity interval training.
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It could be weight training, it could be yoga,
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it could be swimming, any number of different activities.
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But exercise in general causes an increase
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in body temperature and tends to make us more alert,
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not just during the exercise,
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but in the immediate hours after that exercise.
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Exercise does some other things
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that relate to our sleep as well,
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and we'll talk about those today
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and how you can leverage them.
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Another potent lever for adjusting your sleepiness
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and wakefulness is caffeine.
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This, of course, comes as no surprise to people,
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but why and how caffeine works
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might come as a surprise very briefly.
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We have a molecule in our body called adenosine,
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and the longer we have been awake,
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the more adenosine builds up in our brain and body,
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and adenosine is part of the reason why we get sleepy.
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Caffeine effectively operates
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as a adenosine antagonist.
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It works by basically occupying the receptor for adenosine,
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so it's a little bit of a convoluted mechanism,
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but basically all you need to know
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is that caffeine prevents the actions of adenosine.
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That's one of the reasons why caffeine makes us feel alert.
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But how much caffeine we drink and when we drink caffeine
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turns out to be vitally important
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for adjusting our wakefulness and for optimizing our sleep.
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So we'll talk about that as well.
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The other category of lever tools,
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which are immensely powerful for optimizing sleep,
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are supplements.
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There now exist as many as eight different supplements
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that can powerfully modulate sleep in healthy ways
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and that have huge margins for safety.
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We're going to talk about what those supplements are.
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In previous episodes of this podcast
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and as a guest on other podcasts,
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I've talked about three particular supplements,
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magnesium threonate, apigenin, and theanine,
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which together can really enhance the speed
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at which one falls asleep
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and people's ability to stay asleep
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and to really get into those deep stages of sleep,
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they're particularly restorative.
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Today, we're going to talk a little bit more
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about each of those three
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and how they can best be used in combination.
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We are also going to touch on some other supplements
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that I have not talked about much before, if at all.
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Things like glycine and GABA, as well as inositol.
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Many people are going to find inositol interesting
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and of particular use to them,
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especially if they're following a low carbohydrate diet
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or if they are fasting before sleep
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or just trying to avoid eating too close to bedtime
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and yet they're having a hard time falling asleep.
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Inositol also turns out to be especially useful
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for people who have a tendency to wake up
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in the middle of the night
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and have a hard time falling back asleep.
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It also has some interesting and potent effects
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on anxiety throughout the day.
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So we're going to talk about inositol as a tool as well.
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And then last in our list of general categories
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of levers and tools for optimizing sleep are digital tools.
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When we say digital tools, I don't necessarily mean devices.
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What I mean are things like non-sleep deep rest scripts.
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These are zero cost scripts that you listen to
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that take your body through some deep relaxation
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and that can help people both fall asleep, stay asleep,
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fall back asleep, and get better at sleeping.
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And also going to talk about digital tools
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related to self-hypnosis.
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This is distinctly different from stage hypnosis.
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So I know some of you hear hypnosis and you think,
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oh, you know, people, you know, clucking like chickens
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and doing things that are outside their control.
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That's not at all what I'm referring to here.
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I'm talking about clinically and research supported tools
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that have been shown to enhance people's ability
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to fall and stay asleep
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and that can get you far better at sleeping.
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So again, to recap the list of levers and tools,
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we've got light and dark,
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that includes the intensity of light,
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the timing of light, et cetera.
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We've got temperature, we have food, we have exercise,
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caffeine, supplements, and digital tools,
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not just limited to devices,
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but zero cost tools that you can access on YouTube
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and elsewhere in various apps
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that can really help you optimize your sleep.
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So today we're going to talk about all of these.
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I really want to provide you as many tools as possible,
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give you the logic behind each of those tools
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and when and how best to apply them
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so that you can develop the sleep toolkit
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that's ideal for your sleep needs.
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As we head into our description
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of tools for optimizing sleep,
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let's consider what the perfect 24 hour cycle
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would look like.
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Let's start this 24 hour cycle
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with when you wake up in the morning.
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So for some of you, that will be 5 a.m.
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For others of you, that will be 10 a.m.
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Most people I believe wake up sometime
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between 6.30 a.m. and 8.30 a.m.
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But regardless of when you wake up in the morning,
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one of the first things that happens
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is that your body temperature is increasing
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and that's just going to happen naturally.
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Some of it is going to be the consequence
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of your moving around a bit,
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but really the increase in body temperature
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is one of the main triggers for why you woke up
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in the first place.
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That increase in body temperature in turn
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causes an increase in the release of a hormone
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called cortisol.
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Cortisol is often discussed as a stress hormone,
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but it's not just associated with stress.
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It also enhances your immune system
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provided cortisol is elevated at the right times
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and the right time for cortisol to be elevated
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is when you first wake up in the morning.
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That increase in cortisol
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is also going to increase metabolism.
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It's also going to increase your ability to focus mentally
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and for you to move your body.
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So again, cortisol is often demonized
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and considered this bad thing.
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And indeed you don't want cortisol to be chronically
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or consistently elevated throughout the day or night,
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but you do want cortisol to reach its peak early in the day
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right about the time you wake up.
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One way that you can ensure that that cortisol peak
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occurs early in the day,
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right about the time that you wake up
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is to view bright light, ideally from sunlight
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within the first 30 to 60 minutes after waking.
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That's right.
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View bright sunlight within the first 30 to 60 minutes
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after waking.
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I'll get into all the caveats about what happens
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if you wake up before the sun is out,
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what if you live in the UK where there is no sun
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or people claim there is no sun.
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Hate to tell you this folks, but there is sun in the UK.
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We'll talk about all that.
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But everybody, whether or not you live in a cloudy place
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or a sunny place, whether or not there's cloud cover
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or not that day should really strive to get bright light
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in your eyes, ideally from sunlight
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within the first 30 to 60 minutes after waking.
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The reason for that is very simple.
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You want to trigger that cortisol increase to occur
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very early in your day.
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And you don't want that cortisol peak to happen later
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which is what will happen if you wait to get outside
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and see sunlight.
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The reason for this is that you have a set of neurons,
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nerve cells in your eye.
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They're called intrinsically photosensitive
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melanopsin cells, but you do not need to know that name.
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Those neurons respond best to bright light
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and especially right after waking early in the day,
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they are best able to signal to a set of neurons
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that reside over the roof of your mouth
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called the suprachiasmatic nucleus,
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which is a cluster of neurons that then sends
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a huge number of other signals, electrical and chemical
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out to your entire body that triggers
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that cortisol increase, provides a wake up signal
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for your brain and body and sets in motion a timer
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for you to fall asleep later that night.
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So again, we're not trying to go
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into too much mechanism today.
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We are trying to really hammer on tools
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and I'll substantiate those tools just a bit
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with some mechanism, but here's what you do
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or at least here's what I do.
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I wake up in the morning and I want to reach for my phone.
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But I know that even if I were to crank up the brightness
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on that phone screen, it's not bright enough
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to trigger that cortisol spike.
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And for me to be at my most alert and focused
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throughout the day and to optimize my sleep at night.
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So what I do is I get out of bed and I go outside
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and if it's a bright clear day and the sun is low in the sky
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or the sun is starting to get overhead,
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what we call low solar angle,
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then I know I'm getting outside at the right time.
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If there's cloud cover and I can't see the sun,
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I also know I'm doing a good thing
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because it turns out, especially on cloudy days,
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you want to get outside and get as much light energy
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or photons in your eyes.
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But let's say it's a very clear day
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and I can see where the sun is.
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I do not need to stare directly into the sun.
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If it's very low in the sky, I might do that
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because it's not going to be very painful to my eyes.
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However, if the sun is a little bit brighter
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and a little bit higher in the sky,
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sometimes it can be painful to look at.
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So the way to get this sunlight viewing early in the day
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is to look toward the sun.
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If it's too bright to look at directly,
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well, then don't do that.
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You just look toward it, but not directly at it.
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It's absolutely fine to blink.
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In fact, I encourage you to blink
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whenever you feel the impulse to blink.
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Never look at any light, sunlight or otherwise
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that's so bright that it's painful to look at
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because you can damage your eyes.
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But for this morning sunlight viewing,
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it's best to not wear sunglasses.
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That's right, to not wear sunglasses,
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at least for this morning sunlight viewing.
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It is absolutely fine to wear eyeglasses or contact lenses,
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so-called corrective lenses.
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In fact, those will serve you well in this practice
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or this tool because they will focus the light
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onto your neural retina and onto those melanopsin
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intrinsically photosensitive ganglion cells.
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If your eyeglasses or contact lenses have UV protection,
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that's okay.
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There's so many different wavelengths of light
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coming from the sun and they are bright enough
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that they will trigger the mechanisms
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that you want triggered at this early time of day.
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So try and get outside,
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ideally within the first five minutes of waking,
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or maybe it's 15 minutes,
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but certainly within the first hour after waking.
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I want to share with you three critical things
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about this tool of morning sunlight viewing.
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First of all, this is not some woo biology thing.
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This is grounded in the core of our physiology.
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There are literally hundreds, if not thousands
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of quality peer reviewed papers showing that
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light viewing early in the day
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is the most powerful stimulus for wakefulness
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throughout the day
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and it has a powerful positive impact
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on your ability to fall and stay asleep at night.
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So this is really the foundational power tool
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for ensuring a great night's sleep
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and for feeling more awake during the day.
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Second of all, if you wake up before the sun is out,
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you can and probably should flip on artificial lights
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in your internal home environment or apartment
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or wherever you happen to live.
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If your goal is to be awake, right?
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If you wake up at four in the morning
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and you need to be awake,
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well then turn on artificial lights.
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Once the sun is out, however, once the sun has risen,
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then you still want to get outside and view sunlight.
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Some of you will wake up before the sun comes out
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and if you're asking whether or not turning
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on artificial lights can replace sunlight at those hours,
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unfortunately, the answer is no.
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Unless you have a very special light,
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we'll talk about what kind of light,
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the bright artificial lights in your home environment
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are not, I repeat, are not going to be sufficiently bright
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to turn on the cortisol mechanism
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and the other wake-up mechanisms
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that you need early in the day.
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The diabolical twist, however,
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is that those lights in your home or apartment
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or even on your phone are bright enough
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to disrupt your sleep if you look at them too late at night
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or in the middle of the night.
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So there's this asymmetry in our retinal,
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our eye biology and in our brain's biology,
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whereby early in the day, right around waking,
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you need a lot of light, a lot of photons,
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a lot of light energy and artificial lights
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generally just won't accomplish
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what you need them to accomplish.
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But at night, even a little bit of artificial light
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can really mess up your so-called circadian,
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your 24 hour clocks and all these mechanisms
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that we're talking about.
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So if you wake up before the sun is out
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and it's still dark,
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please turn on as many bright artificial lights
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as you possibly can or need,
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but then get outside once the sun is out.
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On cloudy days, you especially need to get outside.
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I repeat, on cloudy days, overcast days,
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you especially need to get outside and get sunlight.
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You just need to get more of it.
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Now, how much light and how much light viewing do you need?
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This is going to vary depending on person and place,
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literally where you live on earth,
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whether or not there's a lot of tree cover,
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whether or not you're somebody who has sensitive eyes
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or less sensitive eyes.
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It's really impossible for me
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to give an absolute prescriptive,
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but we can give some general guidelines.
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In general, on a clear day,
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meaning no cloud cover or minimal cloud cover,
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you want to get this sunlight exposure to your eyes
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for about five minutes or so.
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Could be three minutes one day,
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could be seven minutes the next day, about five minutes.
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On a day where there's cloud cover,
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so the sun is just peeking through the clouds
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or it's more dense cloud cover,
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you want to get about 10 minutes of sunlight exposure
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to your eyes early in the day.
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And on days that are really densely overcast,
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or maybe even a rainy,
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you're going to want to get as much as 20 or 30 minutes
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of sunlight exposure.
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Another key thing is do not forget about,
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just don't try and get this sunlight exposure
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through a windshield of a car or a window,
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whether or not it's tinted or otherwise.
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It takes far too long.
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It's simply not going to trigger the relevant mechanisms.
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You would be standing there all day
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trying to get enough light into your eyes
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from the morning sunlight.
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And by then the sun will have already moved
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from low solar angle to overhead,
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and it simply won't work for all sorts of mechanisms
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related to your circadian rhythm functions.
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So just don't try and do it
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through a windshield sunglasses or a window.
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It's just not going to work.
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Get outside.
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If the weather is really bad, or for whatever reason,
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safety reasons you cannot get outside,
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well then I suppose try and get near a window.
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That would be the last last resort,
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but you really want to get outside
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to get the sunlight exposure.
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Now, if you live in a part of the world
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where it's extremely dark and overcast,
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or the weather won't let you outside,
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or you live in a cave or some other small box
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that does not allow any natural light into it
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for whatever reason,
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well then you're going to need
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a replacement for that sunlight.
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And there are sunlight simulators or daylight simulators
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that you can purchase.
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Those are quite expensive in general.
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And therefore I suggest cheaper options
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that work just as well because they get just as bright.
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Things like ring lights that are sold
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in order for people to take selfies and this kind of thing.
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A drawing LED tablet will work pretty well.
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I actually have one of those
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and I put it on my desk all morning,
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even though I still get outside
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and look at sunlight first thing in the morning.
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Again, also especially I should say on cloudy days.
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We do not have any affiliation to any ring lights
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or LED lights or these panels.
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So we will provide a link to a couple of different options
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if you want to explore the various options.
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I don't know what people's different budgets are.
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I don't know where people live.
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I just know that many of our listeners
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live in locations throughout the world
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where for instance, during the winter,
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it gets very, very dark
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so they can't get sufficient sunlight.
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But get that morning light, ideally from sunlight
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and take into account all the specific points
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that I've given you here.
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And I should say, enjoy this practice.
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It's really nice to get outside first thing in the morning
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and get the sunlight.
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In fact, when you start doing this,
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you'll notice that your body
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will start to feel more energized
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and it will feel more energized more quickly.
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You'll actually start to notice this mechanism
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kicking in each day,
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especially if you're paying attention to your physiology.
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So enjoy this practice of getting outside.
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Yes, you can take your morning beverage outside.
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Yes, you can take your dog with you.
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In fact, animals intuitively know
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to get this morning sunlight.
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They actually seek it out at the right times of days.
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We human beings need to be told by podcasters
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and other people about the science
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that supports these kinds of practices.
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Our pets apparently do not,
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but get outside alone or with somebody,
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with your kids, with your dog.
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However you go about this practice,
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make sure you do this practice
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at least 80% of the days of your life.
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That's right.
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If you miss a day, for instance,
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your bedridden for a day,
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try and get next to a window.
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Let's say you are traveling or for whatever reason,
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you are not able to get outside first thing in the morning.
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Well, then try to get twice as much sunlight in your eyes,
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or I should say, extend the duration of sunlight viewing
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in the morning for twice as long the following day.
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This is a slow integrative mechanism
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that underlies this whole thing of wakefulness
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during the day and sleep at night due to sunlight viewing.
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And if you miss a day, you can make up for it the next day,
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but you have to get twice as much light
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or twice as much duration of light.
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If you really want to get technical
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and you really want to measure
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how much light is in your environment,
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you can download a free app, something like Light Meter,
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and that will allow your phone to act as a bit
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of a light meter and give you a pretty accurate measurement
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of how many lux, which is a measure of brightness,
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are in your environment in the morning.
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And in general, that's just going to be a good tool
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for evaluating your environments.
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Here's what I suggest you do.
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Wake up in the morning, take Light Meter,
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point it at the brightest light in your home
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and take a measurement.
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And what you'll probably find is it's about 1,000 lux.
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Now go outside, and if there's some sunlight out
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and there's cloud cover, point it at the sky
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and press that button.
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You can actually hold it down
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and it'll give you a dynamically updated lux measurement.
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And what you'll find is like 5,000, 10,000,
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sometimes even 90,000 lux,
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even though you don't experience it as so much brighter.
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And that's because an indoor artificial light
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is very concentrated over a small spatial area,
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whereas the sunlight is very diffuse.
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But it's that diffuse, very bright sunlight,
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that photon energy that you really want
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that's going to set all the rhythms of your brain and body
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in the proper way, not just that cortisol peak,
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but it's going to trigger proper metabolism.
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It's going to set a timer for you to be able to fall asleep
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about 16 hours later and on and on and on.
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And I should mention within the on and on and on,
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it's also going to suppress any melatonin,
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a hormone that makes you sleepy
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that happens to be swimming around in your bloodstream
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at the time you wake up.
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It does a number of other things too,
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including interact with the adenosine system
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and kind of wash out some of the adenosine
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that might still be residual if you didn't sleep enough.
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Fundamentally speaking, get that morning sunlight viewing.
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I promise you will be grateful that you did.
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It makes everybody feel better, feel more alert,
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and it will greatly assist with your ability
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to fall and stay asleep later that night.
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Before we continue with today's discussion,
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we're going to take a brief pause
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to acknowledge our sponsor, Athletic Greens,
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and the probiotics in particular are important to me
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of what's called the gut brain axis,
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that is neurons and other cell types in the gut,
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in the digestive tract that communicate with the brain
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and the brain back to the digestive tract
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I gave that answer long before I ever had this podcast
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00:30:46.800
Okay, so now we're still focusing
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on this early part of the day when you've woken up,
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like the first hour or so after waking.
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And we can go to our list of other levers and tools, right?
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We have light and dark.
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We already talked about light and sunlight in particular.
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We've got temperature, food, exercise, caffeine,
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supplements, and digital tools.
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Now, once you've woken up and you want to be awake, okay?
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So this is likely to be early in the day
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if you're following a more standard schedule.
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You will also want to leverage not just light,
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but temperature as a tool.
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If you are inclined, it would be wise
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to try and increase your core body temperature
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a bit more quickly than it would otherwise
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if you were to just shuffle around outside,
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get your sunlight, maybe read a little bit, et cetera.
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And there are two main ways you can do that.
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The first way is to get into cold water of some sort.
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So this could be a cold shower
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of anywhere from one to three minutes.
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This could be an ice bath.
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If that's your thing, it could be a cold tub,
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or if you own a cold tub that's specifically designed
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for deliberate cold exposure, get under some cold water.
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That will certainly wake you up.
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And if you've ever jumped into cold water
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or had a cold shower, you know it really wakes you up
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because you release adrenaline epinephrine
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from both your brain and body.
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The body from your adrenals and your brain
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from a little cluster of neurons called locus coeruleus.
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Again, the names don't matter.
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One to three minutes of cold water exposure
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will wake you up because of that adrenaline release.
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And, and I want to highlight the and,
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it will serve to increase your core body temperature.
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That's right.
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Your body and brain interact as a bit
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of a thermostat system where if you put something cold
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on the surface of your body, your brain,
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a little cluster of neurons in the so-called
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medial preoptic area, act as a thermostat and say,
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ah, the external of my body is cold,
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and therefore I'm going to heat up my core body temperature.
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So this is a little bit paradoxical.
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People think, oh, if you get into cold water
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or an ice bath, your body temperature is going to drop.
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And indeed that's true if you stay in for a while,
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but if you just get in for about one to three minutes
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or under the cold shower for one to three minutes,
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your core body temperature will increase.
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So then when you get out of that cold water,
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your body temperature is increasing at a rate,
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at a slope that's steeper than it would otherwise,
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and you're going to feel more alert.
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It also has the advantage of increasing,
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not just adrenaline, but dopamine,
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which is a molecule involved in motivation, focus, et cetera.
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So this is great for waking up.
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So we've got sunlight,
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we've got temperature triggered by cold water,
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and we have exercise.
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One of the best ways to increase your core body temperature
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early in the day is to do exercise.
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Now, some of you might choose to do your full-blown workout
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for the day first thing when you wake up in the morning.
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I always say the best time to exercise,
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at least what the research points to,
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is immediately when you wake up in the morning
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or three hours after waking or 11 hours after waking,
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but that's really getting down into optimization
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for sake of muscular strength and grip strength,
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and it's very hard to give a strict prescriptive.
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Here's what I suggest.
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If you want to be alert early in the day
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and you want to sleep great at night,
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get that bright sunlight, get into some cold water,
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and if you don't want to get into some cold water,
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try and get some movement.
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It could be a walk, so you can get your sunlight exposure
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while you're taking a walk first thing in the morning.
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It could be a light jog, it could be skipping rope.
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These days, I skip rope for about 10 minutes or 20 minutes
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while looking at the sun,
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so I'm trying to layer in these different things
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for waking up, and then I take a cold shower afterwards,
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that's what I've been doing as of lately,
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but I don't do that all year long necessarily.
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Or some of you are going to be working out mid-morning,
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I sometimes do that,
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but try and get your core body temperature increased
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first thing in the morning.
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And a great way to do that is with the cold water
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and or with exercise.
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And again, it doesn't have to be your full-blown workout
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for the day if you're doing workouts consistently,
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which I hope everybody is
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because everybody really should exercise
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at least, I believe, five or six
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or maybe even seven days a week.
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For me, it's six days a week, sometimes five,
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rarely is it seven.
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So get that exercise or even just a modest amount
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of movement, walking, jogging, skipping rope,
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some light calisthenics,
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that will further increase your core body temperature
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and help you feel more awake.
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Then we have the category of caffeine.
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And again, we're just talking about this
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early part of the day.
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And you might be saying, wait a second,
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I thought this was an episode about tools for sleep.
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Well, everything that we're talking about doing
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in these first 60 to 90 minutes of the day
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really set in motion a wave of biological cascades
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that carry through the entire day
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and into the evening and into the night
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and really do serve to optimize sleep.
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So just hang in there with me.
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And for those of you that are interested in focus
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and attention, your ability to learn,
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all of these tools and practices
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are going to greatly enhance those as well.
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So the next category of tool for use early in the day
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is caffeine.
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Caffeine is a very important compound to think about.
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I do realize that some people who are prone to anxiety,
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especially panic attacks, anxiety attacks,
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might avoid caffeine entirely.
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That's absolutely fine.
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You do not have to drink caffeine.
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So what I'm about to describe are ways to leverage caffeine
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use to optimize sleep and wakefulness.
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If you are comfortable with caffeine, if you like caffeine,
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I happen to love caffeine.
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I like it in the form of coffee or espresso
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or yerba mate tea.
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In particular, non-smoked varieties of yerba mate tea
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is non-smoked because the smoked varieties
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seem to carry some carcinogenic, some cancer causing risk.
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There's increasing data on that.
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So non-smoked varieties of yerba mate.
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So caffeine is something that a lot of people consume
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early in the day.
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How much depends on your tolerance.
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And there's a lot of individual variability here.
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Again, caffeine is adenosine antagonist
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or effectively works as a adenosine antagonist
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and limits sleepiness.
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I highly recommend that everybody delay their caffeine
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intake for 90 to 120 minutes after waking,
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however painful it may be to eventually arrive
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at that 90 to 120 minutes after waking.
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You want, and I encourage you to clear out
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whatever residual adenosine is circulating in your system
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in that first 90 to 120 minutes of the day,
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get that sunlight exposure, get some movement to wake up
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and then, and only then start to ingest caffeine
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because what you'll do if you delay caffeine intake
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until 90 to 120 minutes after waking
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is you will avoid this so-called afternoon crash.
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And you may still get a little bit of dip in energy
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in the afternoon, but it's not going to be
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that massive crash.
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I've talked about the reasons for that crash
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on previous episodes, but if you delay your caffeine intake
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90 to 120 minutes after waking,
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you are doing yourself a great service
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towards wakefulness and to avoid the crash.
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And the afternoon crash has another liability to it,
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which is typically people will emerge
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from that afternoon crash, either grumpy or groggy,
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and then they'll lean into drinking more caffeine,
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which can then disrupt their sleep.
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So wait 90 to 120 minutes after waking in the morning
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to drink caffeine.
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And if you drink caffeine at any point throughout the day,
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really try and avoid any caffeine,
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certainly avoid drinking more than 100 milligrams
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of caffeine after 4 p.m.
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And probably even better to limit your last caffeine intake
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to 3 p.m. or even 2 p.m.
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And for many people, shifting that caffeine intake
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from immediately after waking in the morning
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to 90 to 120 minutes gives them a much longer arc
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of energy throughout the day,
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and they don't feel the need to drink more caffeine
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later in the afternoon.
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If you do drink caffeine later in the afternoon,
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really try and limit the total amount or drink decaf.
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Certainly keep the total amount
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to less than 100 milligrams if you are interested
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in getting into the best possible sleep.
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And I say this knowing that many people,
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including myself, can drink a double espresso
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with 200 milligrams of caffeine or more at 5 p.m.
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or even 6 p.m. or after dinner and still quote unquote,
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fall asleep fine or still sleep fine.
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However, there are terrific data,
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Matt Walker and I talked about this,
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and there are more and more papers all the time
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that point to the fact that caffeine intake late in the day
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after 4 p.m. that is can really disrupt
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the architecture of your sleep.
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So you might think you're sleeping well,
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but you're not sleeping nearly as well as you could
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if you avoided caffeine in those afternoon hours.
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Now, some of you might be doing your main bout of exercise
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first thing in the morning,
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and you want your caffeine before that bout of exercise.
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In that case, I say, go for it.
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Drink your caffeine, do your workout right after waking up.
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I don't have a problem with that.
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You will find however,
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that you're going to get an early afternoon dip in energy
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and that dip in energy is going to be substantial
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because it's going to be a dip in energy
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that naturally follows that workout from the morning.
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So it's dependent on temperature,
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and it's going to be related to the elimination
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of that adenosine blockade by caffeine.
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So you're getting a kind of a one, two punch
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on your energy levels by taking a lot of caffeine
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and exercising early in the day.
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You can sort of expect that you're going to get
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a drop in energy in the early afternoon.
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That's okay if that works for you,
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but just know that delaying that caffeine
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90 to 120 minutes after waking would be the ideal scenario
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most days and most scenarios.
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All that said, I absolutely respect the fact
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that people have different work schedules,
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kids schedules, et cetera.
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So if you want to do some or none or all these tools,
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that's really up to you.
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I'm just providing them to you in the simplest form
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that I can possibly provide them.
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Now, the other lever or tool that you have available to you
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is food, not just what you eat, but when you eat.
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And it turns out that if you eat early in the day,
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you support a biological clock mechanism
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that will make you more alert early in the day.
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That said, many people choose to fast
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in the early morning hours of the day
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or in the first part of the day.
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I'm one such person.
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I generally don't ingest any food
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until about 11 AM or 12 noon.
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Sometimes I'll have a protein shake.
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Sometimes I'll have some almonds.
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Sometimes I'll have breakfast.
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If people are meeting for brunch or breakfast,
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I will have breakfast for social reasons.
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Every once in a while, but most of the time,
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I don't eat until about lunchtime.
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However, some people are really hungry
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when they wake up in the morning.
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Just know that if you eat early in the day,
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you are further triggering an increase in metabolism
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and in temperature that will make you more alert.
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So you don't have to eat early in the day,
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but you can start to see how these different tools
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layer together, sunlight viewing, exercise, cold water,
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eating, many of them are converging on the same mechanisms.
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In fact, when you drink caffeine,
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there's also a small increase in body temperature
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due to the adrenaline increase that it stimulates.
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So all of these things can be layered on top of one another,
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or you can use them individually
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or think about them individually.
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Now, food is an interesting lever or tool
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because it's not just about when you eat,
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but it's also about what you eat.
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And I've talked a lot about eating for energy
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and what that means in terms of caloric energy
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versus neural energy, et cetera,
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in previous podcast episodes.
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We're not going to focus on that now,
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because frankly, to get into a description
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of whether or not somebody should eat fruits or vegetables
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or animal proteins or dairy, et cetera, early in the day,
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that's very nuanced.
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What you eat for your breakfast
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or if you choose to not eat breakfast is really up to you.
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All that said, if you eat a very large meal,
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it doesn't matter if you slept terrifically well
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10 hours the night before,
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or if you are about to go to sleep,
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or if it's the middle of the afternoon,
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if your gut is full of food,
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there's just a large volume of food in your gut,
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it's going to divert a lot of blood
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and other critical resources
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away from other organs of your body,
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in particular, your brain,
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and you're going to be sleepy after eating a big meal.
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So this is sort of a duh,
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but I think oftentimes in the discussions
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about what to eat for energy,
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people neglect to consider food volume as a strong parameter
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or variable in that discussion.
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So if you eat a huge breakfast,
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it's likely that you are going to be tired
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immediately after eating that breakfast,
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unless of course you exercise very hard prior to that
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and you're metabolize all that food very quickly.
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So it's up to you whether or not to eat
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first thing in the morning or not,
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but if you do eat in the first few hours of the morning,
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just understand that you are setting
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or you're helping to set a food entrained
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as it's called circadian clock,
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light, temperature, timing of food intake,
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movement and exercise,
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all of these things literally funnel in,
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in a neural sense,
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they funnel into this thing that we call the circadian clock
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and they let that clock, that set of neurons predict
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when you are likely to be eating and active
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and viewing sunlight the next day
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and the next day and the next day.
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I say all this because there are some beautiful studies
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and I'll highlight one again in the show note captions
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that show that if people are having a hard time
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waking up in the morning,
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one of the things they can do is maximize sunlight viewing,
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exercise in the morning, drink caffeine,
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although again, I support the idea
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that that would best be done about 90 to 120 minutes
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after waking, eating some food
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in those early morning hours, et cetera, et cetera.
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You can layer in multiple levers or tools
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in order to be more alert.
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And that's what these levers and tools are really there for
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in this sense of what we're talking about today,
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which is optimizing sleep.
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Yes, they will make you more alert.
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Yes, they will provide some adrenaline and dopamine,
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for instance, the cold water, et cetera, et cetera.
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But the reason we're talking about these things
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in the context of sleep is that they start to give your body
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some predictable autonomic timing.
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What is predictable autonomic timing?
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Well, your autonomic nervous system
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is the components of your brain and body
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that cause wakefulness and sleepiness.
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And you can start to create some predictability
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in that autonomic timing.
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You can start to do things that really make it such
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that you naturally wake up at six in the morning
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or five in the morning.
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That's right, if you're somebody who naturally
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is a night owl who likes to stay up until two in the morning
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and sleep until 10 a.m. and you now have a job
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or you have to go to school or you have a partner
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that likes to get up early and go to sleep early,
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well, you can make that happen
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and you can make that happen pretty painlessly
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if you take a week or so and go to sleep 30 minutes
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or an hour earlier each night, set an alarm and wake up
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30 minutes or an hour earlier each morning
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until of course you're waking up
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at the time you want to wake up.
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And then even in that groggy state, get some exercise,
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get some sunlight viewing.
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If the sun's not out,
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turn on those bright artificial lights,
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have some breakfast, even if you're not hungry.
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In fact, for those of you that engage in shift work
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because you have to or travel and you're jet lagged,
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one of the quickest ways to shift your circadian clock
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and get onto the local schedule
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is to eat on the local schedule.
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So what all these tools do is they really set up a cascade.
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Think of it as kind of a wave front of wakefulness
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and focus throughout the day.
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It'll take you through the middle of the day
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and the afternoon stages we'll talk about in a few minutes,
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but really they take you to this period
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that is about 5 p.m. until your bedtime.
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I realize some people are going to bed very early,
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like 8 p.m. or 9 p.m., which to me seems very early,
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but very few people go to sleep at 5 p.m., right?
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Unless you're doing that for shift work or other reasons.
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But from 5 p.m. until bedtime is really a critical period
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in which you need to leverage particular tools
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in order to get and stay asleep optimally
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and to be able to sleep through the night.
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So really there are three critical periods
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throughout each 24-hour cycle.
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And during each of those critical periods,
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you're going to want to do as many specific things
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as you can to optimize your wakefulness and focus
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and mood throughout the day and your sleep at night.
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The first critical period is the one
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that we've been talking about up until now.
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Things like morning sunlight, viewing caffeine,
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90 to 120 minutes after waking, exercise, and so on.
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We can call that critical period one.
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And it really encompasses the time from which you wake up
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until about three hours after waking.
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Although I should just mention,
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because there are always those people that say,
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wait, I wake up at 4 a.m.
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and the sun isn't out until 8 a.m.
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Okay, so it might be four hours,
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but really it's those early morning hours
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of your day once you're awake.
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The second critical period is the time throughout the day
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and afternoon leading into evening.
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So you may ask, what are the things
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that you can do throughout the day,
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the middle of your day and into the afternoon
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and evening hours that are really going to set you up
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for the best possible sleep later that night?
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Well, there are a few dos and there are a few don'ts.
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First of all, be careful about ingesting too much caffeine
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throughout the middle of the day.
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That's kind of an obvious one for the reasons
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that we talked about earlier.
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Second of all, if you are a napper,
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and I raise my hand now, for those of you listening,
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I'm raising my right hand because I love naps.
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I've always loved naps.
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Nowadays I do NSDR or a reverie sleep hypnosis
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almost every day.
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And I tend to do that, as I mentioned,
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in the early afternoon hours if I'm feeling kind of sleepy,
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because even though I optimize my caffeine intake, timing,
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et cetera, I tend to get a little sleepy in the afternoon.
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Most people get a little sleepy in the afternoon.
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Some of that is related to hitting
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that peak of body temperature.
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And you might think, wait,
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I thought high body temperature
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is associated with alertness.
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And it is, but right as you crest that high body temperature
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and your body temperature starts to drop,
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there's a tendency to be a little bit sleepy.
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So some of you might opt to take a nap in the afternoon.
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Should you nap, should you not nap?
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That's a question that I get asked a lot
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and that I asked Dr. Matthew Walker
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when he was a guest on this podcast.
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Here was his answer and here's what the data support.
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It is fine to nap in the afternoon,
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but don't nap so late in the day or for so long
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that it disrupts your ability to fall
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and stay asleep at night for your major sleep bout.
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Okay, so naps are fine,
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but don't sleep so long during the day
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or too late in the day that it disrupts your ability
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to fall and stay asleep.
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I should also say you do not have to nap.
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It's kind of an interesting phenomenon that happens
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on these podcasts and on social media
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where we'll talk about naps
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and the fact that naps are great
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and don't make them longer than 90 minutes,
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but then all the non-nappers get really worried like,
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wait, am I supposed to nap?
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I don't like naps, I wake up groggy.
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You do not have to nap.
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In fact, if you can make it through your whole day
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without napping, great, more power to you.
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But if you do nap and you find that naps serve you well,
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keep those naps shorter than 90 minutes
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for reasons related to ultradian cycles and so forth.
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And make sure that you don't nap too late in the day
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that you are then staying up too late at night
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and having a hard time waking up the next morning.
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I will say that for a lot of people who do not like naps
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or that find they wake up really grumpy from naps
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or groggy from naps,
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I encourage you to try the Reverie app,
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try an NSDR script, try yoga nidra,
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00:49:12.900
try something of that sort
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for anywhere from 10 to 20 to 30 minutes.
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I tend to do this every day.
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Now I'll just lie down and I love yoga nidra,
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I love NSDR scripts, I love using the Reverie app.
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00:49:24.300
In particular, the portion of the Reverie app
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that gets you better at sleeping,
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it really is beneficial for me
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because it serves as very replenishing
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while I'm doing that hypnosis,
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but it's also gotten me much better at falling
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and staying asleep and falling back asleep
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in the middle of the night.
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So this critical period throughout the day
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is one in which most people are doing a lot of stuff.
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They're emailing and picking up kids and they're exercising
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and they're commuting and doing all sorts of things,
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taking phone calls and zooms, et cetera.
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But if you can get that period of deep relaxation
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through a nap or NSDR, that's going to serve you well.
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Try not to drink too much caffeine,
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certainly no more than 100 milligrams of caffeine
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after 4 p.m. if your goal is to fall asleep
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at a reasonably normal time.
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And for those of you that exercise in the afternoon,
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understand that if you exercise very intensely,
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so this might be weight training or running
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or some other very intense exercise,
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typically that's going to further increase
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your body temperature.
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Makes sense, right?
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Based on everything we know about metabolism
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and body temperature.
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And it's going to so-called delay your circadian clock.
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It's going to make it such that you want to fall asleep
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a little bit later, maybe even a lot later.
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So if you're exercising in the afternoon or evening,
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and that's the only time you can exercise
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or that's the time that you prefer to exercise, great,
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but be careful about ingesting too much caffeine
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in order to get the energy to do that exercise
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because that caffeine will disrupt your sleep.
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And just know that you are delaying your circadian clock.
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You are making it such that you will naturally
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want to go to sleep later and wake up later.
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Contrast that with if you exercise early in the day,
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say immediately after waking up
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or in the first zero to four hours after waking.
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In most cases, that's not going to shift
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your circadian clock much.
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And toward the end of the episode,
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we'll talk a little bit about forced exercise
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prior to wake up times.
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That doesn't mean doing exercise in your sleep.
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That means deliberately setting an alarm
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and getting out of bed much earlier than you naturally would.
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That turns out to be a very potent tool
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to so-called advance your circadian clock.
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So we can talk about that a little bit later in the episode.
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But this critical period too in the middle of the day
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is when you're going to want to leverage specific tools.
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And we've talked about those, limiting caffeine intake,
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being mindful of the clock delaying effects of exercise,
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the fact that also if you're going to nap,
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you don't want to nap too long or too late into the day.
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Otherwise it'll disrupt your nighttime sleep.
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So this critical period too,
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or second critical period I should say,
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during the middle of the day,
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is a time in which you should be doing certain things
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and avoiding doing certain things.
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So that raises the question of whether or not
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you should also be getting a lot of light
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in particular sunlight throughout the day.
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Now that's something that hasn't been explored too much
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in the literature until recently,
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when Dr. Samara Tarr,
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who's the director of the Chronobiology Unit
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at the National Institutes of Mental Health
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has decided to do a number of experiments,
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exploring the effects of light on mood
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and other aspects of brain function and body function
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when that light is delivered, not just in the morning,
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which is great for us, but also throughout the day.
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So should you be looking at sunlight
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or bright artificial lights throughout the day?
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Now on the face of it, you might just think,
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yes, you know, sunlight's great,
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provided we're not getting a sunburn
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and we're not staring at the sun and damaging our eyes,
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we should get as much sunlight as we possibly can.
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In fact, we talked about this in the episode on hormones,
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about how getting light onto as much of our skin
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as we can throughout the day can really help
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in the production of testosterone and estrogen
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in both men and women in healthy ways
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that improves mood and libido and all sorts of things
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that are associated with wellbeing.
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However, because light is such a powerful stimulus
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for controlling the timing of your sleepfulness
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or sleepiness, I should say, and wakefulness,
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we might want to be cautious about how much light
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we are viewing in the afternoon,
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in particular in the early evening hours, right?
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Well, it turns out it's not so straightforward.
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Viewing, so sunlight to the eyes,
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sunlight in the late afternoon and evening hours,
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so again, depends on time of year,
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depends on location that you happen to be in,
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but getting some sunlight in your eyes for, again,
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maybe five or 10, maybe 30 minutes,
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depending on how much cloud cover there is,
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doing that in the afternoon
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serves an additional beneficial purpose,
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which is you protect or you inoculate your nervous system
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against some of the negative effects
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of bright artificial light or even dim artificial light
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in the nighttime hours between 10 PM and 4 AM,
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which is really critical period three.
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And we'll talk about what to do and what to not do
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during critical period three of every 24 hour cycle.
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But to make it very clear what I'm saying here,
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get that morning sunlight in your eyes,
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but also get some sunlight in your eyes
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in the late afternoon and evening hours
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when the sun is at so-called low solar angle,
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when it starts to descend in the sky.
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Again, you don't have to stare directly at the sun,
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although if you can catch a nice beautiful sunset,
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go for it.
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But as the sun starts to descend,
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it triggers those same neurons in your eye
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that communicate with your circadian clock,
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but it communicates with a different component
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or different compartment within the circadian clock.
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That circadian clock is not just one thing,
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it's multiple things, and you have what are called
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morning oscillators and evening oscillators.
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And to make a long story short,
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the tool that I'm describing of looking at the sun
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in the late afternoon and evening,
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again, blinking is fine, don't stare at the sun,
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but getting that sunlight in your eyes
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in the late afternoon and evening signals to that clock
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that it's evening time and that sleep is coming.
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It also serves as a second anchor or reference point
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for your body and your brain to know where it is in time.
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Remember back to the beginning of the episode,
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when I said your brain and your body
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and all your organs are locked inside this skin
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and the skull, and they don't know what's going on
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in the outside world.
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Well, that morning sunlight viewing
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and the other things you do during critical period one,
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those provide one strong set of signals
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that it's wake up time and time to be alert
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and time to be focused.
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And then in the evening,
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by getting sunlight in your eyes again,
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and in particular sunlight
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that comes from low solar angle sunlight,
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well, that provides a second stimulus
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or a second reference point that tells your brain and body,
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hey, it's evening, the sun is descending.
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And you might say, wait,
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how does the brain and these neurons know the difference
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between morning light and evening light?
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It turns out has to do with the particular wavelengths
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of light that are present in morning versus evening.
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It's an incredible mechanism.
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And you are probably familiar with the fact
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that when the sun is directly overhead,
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it's really bright white and yellow,
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and the sky's often blue.
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And if there's cloud cover just comes through
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as a bunch of bright light.
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Well, next time you're out in the morning,
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take a look at what a sunrise looks like.
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There's a lot of yellow blue contrast.
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And those yellow blues signal important specific sets
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of cells in your eye and brain that it's morning.
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In the evening, you're also going to see yellow and blue,
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but the ratio of yellows and blues has now changed.
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And you also see some oranges.
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And in a really brilliant sunset, you'll see some reds.
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If you haven't noticed this already,
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you'll really want to look for this.
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It's like kind of fun and cool to look at.
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Well, those yellows and blues and oranges
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that you see in the evening sunsets,
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those signal to your brain and body
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that evening is there and that nighttime is coming.
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And they're really establishing a second reference point
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or wave front of biological signals
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that are going to optimize your nighttime hours
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and your transition into really terrific sleep.
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So now let's talk about what I'm calling
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critical period three of each 24 hour cycle.
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So this would be the period of time of late evening.
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So it might be 6 p.m. for some,
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depending on when you go to sleep or 7 p.m.,
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extending into the hours in which you decide
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to get into bed and go to sleep
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and then throughout the night.
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There are a number of things that you're going to want to do
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and there are a number of things
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that you are going to want to avoid doing
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in order to optimize your sleep.
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First of all, you're going to want to avoid
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bright artificial lights of any color.
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Yes, of any color.
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We haven't talked a lot about blue blockers,
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you know, lenses that block blue wavelengths
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or short wavelengths of light.
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I don't have anything against blue blockers.
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In fact, many people find that blue blockers
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provide them some relief from headache and some eye strain
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if they wear blue blockers throughout the day
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and certainly at night, but you don't need them.
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And even if you do wear them,
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you will find that if lights are very bright,
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doesn't matter if it's a blue light,
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a yellow light, or a red light,
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those bright lights will wake up your brain and body.
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They will activate the same mechanisms
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that were activated early in the day by sunlight.
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However, and here's the really diabolical twist.
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I mentioned this earlier,
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but the diabolical twist in the way
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that your brain and body respond to light
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is that early in the day, in the morning hours,
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you need a lot of bright light, ideally from sunlight,
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to be very alert and to wake up.
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But in the evening hours and nighttime hours,
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it takes very little light, very few photons,
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in order to wake up your brain and body
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and to disrupt your circadian clock and disrupt your sleep.
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So what that means is that once the sun goes down,
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which of course is going to happen at different times of year
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in different places on earth,
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but once the sun goes down,
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you would be wise to try and dim the lights
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in your indoor environment most days, right?
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I realize some nights you're going to throw a party
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and have people over.
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You might not want to dim the light.
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Some nights you're going to go out.
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You might view a lot of bright lights,
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but most nights of your life,
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you're going to want to dim the lights
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in your internal environment.
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And ideally the lights that you do use,
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you would place low in that physical environment.
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So you would try and not use overhead lights,
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but rather rely on desk lamps
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or lights even placed low to the floor, even on the floor.
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If you are going to use light at night, and most people do,
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I would encourage you to use as little artificial light
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as is required to carry out the activities
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you need to require safely.
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That could be studying,
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in which case you might need a little bit more light
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in order to read or study.
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If you're watching a television show
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or you're watching something on your computer,
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dim that screen way, way down as dim as possible
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while still of course being able to view
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what you need to view.
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Even better, I should say,
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ideally you would use candlelight and or moonlight.
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Now, some nights the moon is really bright
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and you actually can use moonlight
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to go about your usual activities.
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Moonlight might seem very, very bright,
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but actually moonlight is fairly low light intensity
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and candlelight, which can also seem very bright,
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actually is very low light intensity.
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If you're sitting across a table
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with some candlelight there, and it's a really bright candle
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chances are it's only about three to 10 lux,
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which is very, very little light energy
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compared to say an artificial desk lamp
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or an overhead light, which is going to be in the area
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of anywhere from a hundred to a thousand lux.
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So candlelight is fine, of course,
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be cautious with open flame, but candlelight is fine,
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moonlight is fine, dimming artificial lights is fine
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provided they're dimmed way, way down.
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And again, try and avoid using overhead artificial lights.
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The absolute worst lights are going to be
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overhead fluorescent lights of the sort
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that you would have in the supermarket
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or that you would see at a gas station
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or something of that sort.
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And I confess there are times in which I'm driving home
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and it's late at night and I want to be able to get to sleep
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and I'll need to stop at the grocery store
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or a gas station or something like that.
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I've actually put on sunglasses at night
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in order to avoid getting that bright light exposure
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at night, although that's a little bit extreme.
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I have done that from time to time
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because that bright light exposure will absolutely quash.
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It will eliminate any melatonin
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that happens to be circulating in your brain and body.
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Now, melatonin, a lot of people think of as a supplement,
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but melatonin is naturally released
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as the evening comes about and into the nighttime hours.
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It's a hormone that makes you feel sleepy
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and allows you to fall asleep.
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So viewing bright light in the late evening hours
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and nighttime hours is really not good
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for your sleep quality
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and your ability to fall and stay asleep.
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So for most people, a simple rule of thumb
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is going to be avoid bright artificial lights of all colors
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and in particular overhead bright artificial lights
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between the hours of 10 p.m. and 4 a.m.
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That's right, between 10 p.m. and 4 a.m.,
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avoid those bright artificial lights as much as possible.
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Use only as much light as is absolutely necessary
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in order to carry out the routines and activities
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you need to carry out safely.
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I should mention that the reason overhead lights
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are problematic is the same reason why sunlight
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is so great early in the day, which is that the cells,
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that is the neurons that can wake up your brain and body
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through activation of the circadian clock,
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reside mainly in the bottom half or two thirds
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of your neural retina.
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And the way the optics of your eyes work
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is that the cells on the bottom half of your eye
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view the upper visual field.
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So this is a beautiful adaptive mechanism
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that allows these cells to respond to overhead light
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from sunlight in the early part of the day
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and throughout the day.
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But in the evening, if you have bright artificial lights on
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and those bright artificial lights are overhead lights,
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it's going to more closely mimic what sunlight does
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in the evening time.
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And that turns out to be a bad thing
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if your goal is to eventually go to sleep.
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So again, do like the Scandinavians do,
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use lights that are set low in the room at night.
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And if you really want to optimize your sleep-wake cycles,
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I suppose you could also do the opposite throughout the day.
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You could really emphasize the use
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of bright artificial lights and sunlight
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that comes from above.
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And of course, sunlight always comes from above,
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but if you're working in a given office environment
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and it's 2 p.m. or 3 p.m.
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and you want to be as awake as possible,
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really crank up the overhead lights.
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And then in the evening,
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which is this critical period three that we're referring to,
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really try and dim those lights or have them off
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or just rely on candlelight or moonlight
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from the hours of about 10 p.m. until 4 a.m.
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Our good friend, Samir Hattar,
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who's been on this podcast before,
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Samir is director of the Chronobiology Unit
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at the National Institutes of Mental Health.
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Well, he's absolutely obsessive about this light stuff
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and avoiding light at night.
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In fact, he lives in what I joke is like a cave at night
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from 9 p.m. until 5 a.m.,
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which is really his kind of sleep cycle.
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He has his house so dark that you'd be lucky
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to be able to find a spoon in the kitchen.
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In fact, you'd be lucky to find your way down the hallway
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if you're me.
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But in any case, dim the lights from them way, way down.
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It will serve you well.
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It will make it much easier for you to get sleepy
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and stay sleepy and fall asleep and stay asleep
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throughout the night.
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Now, not to depart from this critical period three,
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but if you recall viewing that afternoon light, right?
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The low solar angle light as the sun is heading down
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in the sky, so it could be sunset
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or what I call circa sunset, around sunset.
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Well, doing that is going to slightly
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but not completely offset any of the negative effects
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of viewing artificial light at night.
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So I don't want to give people a pass here,
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but let's say you know that you're going
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to watch some Netflix at night,
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or you're going to be up late studying
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and yet you still want to be able to fall and stay asleep.
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Definitely make sure you see that evening light.
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There's a great study.
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We'll provide a link to the study which showed
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that if people view evening sunset light
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or evening sunsets or sunlight right around the time
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of sunset, it really serves to inoculate
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or offset some, again, some,
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not all of the negative effects of artificial light
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between the hours of 10 p.m. and 4 a.m.
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Now that's light, but as you recall,
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we also have this tool related to temperature.
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And you're probably not going to be surprised
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that the way to leverage temperature
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in the evening is the exact opposite of the way
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that you want to leverage temperature early in the day.
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Early in the day, temperature increases from cold showers
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or exercise, et cetera, wake you up.
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What that means is that taking a cold shower late at night
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is probably a bad idea.
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Rather, taking a nice hot bath or a sauna,
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you might think would heat up your body.
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And indeed that's what happens
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if you stay in a very long time,
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but if you do hot tub or a hot bath or a sauna
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in the evening and you don't stay in
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for more than 20 or 30 minutes and you get out,
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you take maybe a cool-ish shower or a warm shower,
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then what happens is there's a compensatory cooling off
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of your core body temperature
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for the reasons we discussed earlier.
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And your body temperature will drop by one to three degrees
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and it will make it much easier to get into sleep.
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So if you're somebody that enjoys hot baths, hot showers,
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or hot tubs, evening and nighttime
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is going to be the best time to do that
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if your goal is to facilitate sleep.
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Similarly, you should try and make your sleeping environment
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pretty cool, if not cold.
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Now, that doesn't mean you need to be cold
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while you're asleep.
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You can get under as many blankets as you need,
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but it's a good idea to make your sleeping environment cool.
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In fact, drop the temperature in that sleeping environment
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by at least three degrees,
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and you'll be happy that you did.
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Now, some people rely on things like eight sleep.
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I use that one of these
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controllable temperature mattress covers.
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Other people would simply do this
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by putting a fan in the room or opening a window.
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Again, depends on time of year, depends on technology,
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depends on budgets, et cetera.
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But you're going to want to sleep
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in a relatively cool or cold sleeping environment
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and then layer on the blankets as needed to stay asleep.
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And I say as needed,
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because one of the things that you're going to do
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in your sleep or if you happen to wake up
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is if you're too warm,
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you're going to put a foot or a hand out
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from under those blankets.
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And the reason for doing that is very logical.
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Once you understand the mechanism, you have special portals.
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You essentially have ways of passing heat, excuse me,
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in and out of your body,
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primarily through the palms of your hands,
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the upper half of your face and the bottoms of your feet
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through so-called glabrous skin.
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This was covered in the episode with Dr. Craig Heller
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from the biology department at Stanford.
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If you lower the temperature in your sleeping environment,
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so lower the temperature in that room
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or use a controllable mattress cover
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that can cool down like eight sleep
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or something of that sort,
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it's naturally going to make your sleep environment cooler.
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And if you're too warm under the blankets,
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all you have to do is extend a hand or a foot out
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from under those blankets.
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Whereas if the sleeping environment that you're in
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is too warm, there's very little you can do to cool off
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besides push off those blankets.
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So for instance, if you're too warm
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and you're waking up in the middle of the night,
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which is what happens if you get too warm,
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you'll push off those blankets.
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But if the room is too warm, well, what are you going to do?
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You'd probably have to put your hands into some cool water
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or take a coolish shower or something
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for a couple of seconds.
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That's not very practical.
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Better to just keep the sleeping environment cool.
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I'm not a big fan of people putting socks on
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while they sleep, or I should say,
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I'm not a fan of putting socks on while I sleep
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because that eliminates this glabber skin portal
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on the bottoms of one's feet.
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So for those of you that have heard,
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wear socks while you sleep,
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that works great for people that tend to run too cold
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while they sleep and wake up because their feet get cold.
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But if you're somebody who wakes up
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in the middle of the night,
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chances are you're waking up
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because you're getting too warm.
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And the best thing that you could do is to cool
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or lower the temperature in the room that you're sleeping
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and not wear socks.
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Get under as many blankets as you need to.
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Fall asleep and then across the night,
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you'll naturally just move a hand or a foot
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or all hands and feet out from under those blankets
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to cool off because of the relationship
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between temperature and sleep.
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That is dropping your core body temperature
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one to three degrees gets you into sleep
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and helps you stay asleep.
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So let's say you do exercise late in the day
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and you're finding yourself very alert in the evening
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and you need to fall asleep.
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Or let's say you've exercised
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and you needed four cups of espresso
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in order to do that exercise.
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Well, there are a few things that you can do
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to try and bring your nervous system down
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into more state of calmness.
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And you can do that also
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by lowering your core body temperature.
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One of those I already talked about before,
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taking a nice hot shower or a hot bath
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and then getting out and cooling off
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will decrease your body temperature.
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Maybe not enough to get you into sleep
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if you have a ton of caffeine in your system.
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But again, you can use this mechanism of temperature shifts
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to wake up or temperature shifts to fall asleep
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in ways that really can help you overcome
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some of the irregularities in your sleep-wake cycle
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and exercise cycle, et cetera.
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Because of course, nobody's perfect.
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Some days we end up having a workout in the afternoon
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or we'll miss the workout entirely.
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Other days we end up having that cup of coffee
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in the afternoon with a friend
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and then we have a hard time falling asleep.
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So you can use these tools,
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not just in their optimized form,
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being absolutely obsessive and compulsive
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about exactly when you do each of those tools.
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That would be wonderful.
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But life happens, as they say.
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And some days you're going to feel too alert at night
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and you want to fall asleep,
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or you got to get up especially early the next morning
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and you're not somebody who normally goes to bed at 10 PM.
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Well, that's when something like a hot bath or a sauna
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can really benefit you
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because it can adjust your temperature rhythm accordingly.
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I would be remiss if I didn't touch on alcohol
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and CBD and THC.
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I always get questions about these.
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And I should say, of course, many places, but not all,
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THC is illegal, although there are medical uses
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and some places it's decriminalized,
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other places it's legal.
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Alcohol, of course, is consumed almost as frequently
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as caffeine is consumed.
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I personally don't drink alcohol.
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I don't have anything against it per se.
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I just don't tend to enjoy it.
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One of the reasons I don't enjoy it is if I drink alcohol,
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I simply fall asleep.
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So that doesn't really accomplish any of the things
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that I really want to accomplish
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because the sleep that one gets after drinking alcohol
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is greatly disrupted sleep.
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Hate to break it to you,
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but that's the truth.
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And when Dr. Matt Walker came on this podcast,
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he said exactly the same thing.
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While THC and alcohol do help some people fall asleep
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and maybe even stay asleep,
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the architecture of that sleep is suboptimal
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compared to the sleep they would get
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without alcohol or THC in their system.
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So I'm not here to tell you what to do or not to do.
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I'm certainly not the substance police.
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That's not my role.
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I'm just reporting to you the biology.
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If your sleep is not restoring you
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to the extent that you feel it should,
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or if you are regularly relying on a drink or two
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in order to fall asleep or THC in order to fall asleep,
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that is disrupting your total pattern of sleep.
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However, I do realize that nowadays,
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a lot of people are relying on THC and or CBD,
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especially edible forms in order to fall and stay asleep.
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And, you know, we can just acknowledge the data.
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It does seem that there's an anxiety lowering effect
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of some of those compounds that do help people
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who have a hard time falling and staying asleep
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because of reasons related to anxiety.
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Although in a moment,
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we'll talk about some supplements and supplement protocols
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that can also assist in the ability to fall and stay asleep
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and that can adjust anxiety
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and that do not seem to disrupt sleep architecture
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in negative ways and in fact can enhance the depth
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and quality of sleep architecture.
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Okay, so you've done everything correctly up until now.
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You've got your morning routine from critical period one,
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you've got your afternoon routine,
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you saw some sunlight in the afternoon,
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you avoided caffeine in the eight hours
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or 10 hours before bedtime, you're not drinking alcohol,
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you've cooled down the room,
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you're doing all these things right,
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you dim the lights, et cetera, et cetera.
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What else can we do in order to optimize our sleep?
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Well, I always say behavioral tools first,
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then look to nutrition,
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then if necessary, look to supplementation,
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and then if still necessary, look to prescription drugs,
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obviously prescribed by a board certified physician.
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Well, we've talked a lot about the behavioral tools
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for critical period three,
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we have not talked a lot about
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the supplementation based tools.
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There are supplements that for most people
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will greatly improve their ability to fall and stay asleep
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and the three main supplements in that category
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or that kit of sleep supplements,
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and I've talked about these before, are magnesium threonate,
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so T-H-R-E-O-N-A-T-E, apigenin,
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A-P-I-G-E-N-I-N, apigenin,
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and theanine, T-H-E-A-N-I-N-E, theanine.
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Now, some important things to point out about magthreonate
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as it's called apigenin and theanine.
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First of all, you don't necessarily need to take all three,
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although many people get a synergistic effect
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from taking all three,
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in fact, you may not even need to take even one.
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What I recommend is that if you're already doing
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all the behavioral tools regularly
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and you're still having trouble falling asleep
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and staying asleep, well, then you might try one
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of the supplements within this sleep stack.
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They do have fairly wide margins for safety,
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although I should also say anytime you're going to add
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or remove something from your supplement protocol,
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your nutritional program,
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you definitely want to talk to your physician.
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I don't just say that to protect us,
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I say that to protect you, but for most people,
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the margins of safety on these things
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are going to be pretty broad.
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A couple of notes about dosages.
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For some people, the dosages of any one
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or several of the supplements I mentioned will be zero.
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That is, you won't need them in order to get
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and stay asleep most nights of your life.
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That's terrific if you don't need them.
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For many people, however,
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taking 145 milligrams of magnesium threonate
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can be very beneficial.
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That's the dosage that most people will benefit from.
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Some people need to go a little higher,
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some people need to go a little bit lower.
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One of the reasons that we've been pointing people
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towards single ingredient formulations these days
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is because it allows people to adjust the dosage
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of one component of a so-called sleep stack
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without having to disrupt the dosage of another component
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and so on.
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It also allows people to try just one element
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within the sleep stack without having to purchase
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and try the others, which is a problem
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if you're buying a blend of a lot of different ingredients.
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So 145 milligrams of magnesium threonate,
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50, five zero milligrams of apigenin,
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and again, you could just take the apigenin on its own,
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and 100 to 400 milligrams of theanine,
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taken, again, alone or in combination
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with the other supplements mentioned in this stack,
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many people find allows them to get really drowsy
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and fall asleep, sleep really deeply,
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and they feel much more refreshed the next day
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and they don't have a grogginess to them.
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Now, a couple of notes about these different supplements.
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About 5% of people report that magnesium threonate
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really disrupts their gut.
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It gives them diarrhea or gastric distress,
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in which case, don't take it.
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If magnesium threonate disrupts your gut or your digestion
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to a point where it's uncomfortable or at all
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and you don't like it, don't take any of it.
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The proper dosage for you, in other words,
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would be zero milligrams.
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Now, in a slightly different way,
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many people who can tolerate magnesium threonate
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or really thrive on magnesium threonate and like apigenin
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might find that theanine,
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even at the lowest dose of 100 milligrams,
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because again, the range is 100 to 400 milligrams,
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that theanine gives them such vivid dreams
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that they actually find it disruptive
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or they wake up in the middle of the night
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or they find that the sleep that they're getting
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is kind of anxiety-ridden
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because of the intensity of those dreams.
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So some people might choose to leave theanine
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out of the sleep stack
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and just take magnesium threonate or apigenin.
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Again, some people might leave magnesium threonate
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out of the sleep stack.
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Again, all of this is really about
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finding the supplementation protocol that's ideal for you.
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I should mention that whether or not
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you're taking one or two or three
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of the components of the sleep stack,
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the ideal time to take those
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is 30 to 60 minutes before bedtime,
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especially if you haven't had anything to eat
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for the three hours or so before bedtime.
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I confess that oftentimes I'll have
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a little bit of a snack late in the evening,
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some berries or something.
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I try not to eat too close to bedtime,
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but some evenings, just because of work schedule,
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I'll get home late, be 9 p.m., and I'll eat a big meal,
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and then I'll take the sleep stack and fall asleep.
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Every once in a while, that just so happens.
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Nobody's perfect.
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Certainly I'm not.
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But that sleep stack can be very beneficial,
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and I do think that it's preferable to melatonin.
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Here's the reason.
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First of all, melatonin is a hormone
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that you endogenously make.
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You now know a lot about melatonin,
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and it's controlled by light,
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meaning light inhibits it or eliminates it.
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Darkness promotes it.
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And melatonin indeed can help us fall asleep,
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but the dosages of melatonin
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that are contained in most commercial products
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is far, far, far greater than what we would make
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endogenously, so it's really supra physiological.
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So that's of concern because melatonin
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is not just responsible for making us sleepy
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and fall asleep.
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It also does things like interacts
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with other hormone systems, testosterone and estrogen,
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even in the puberty system in kids.
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Is taking melatonin every once in a while a problem
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for adjusting to jet lag, et cetera?
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Probably not.
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I would even say no, but taking it chronically over time,
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especially kids taking it chronically over time
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can potentially be problematic.
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So at least in my opinion,
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these other supplements are going to be preferable
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to melatonin.
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Now, as I mentioned at the beginning of today's episode,
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there are some other things
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that I certainly take every once in a while
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and that other people might consider taking
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in addition to the sleep stack I talked about before
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or in place of that sleep stack,
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if that sleep stack doesn't work well for them.
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So every third or fourth night,
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I will take two grams of glycine
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and 100 milligrams of GABA in addition
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to the standard sleep stack that I talked about before.
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So I'm taking magthreonine, apigenin, and theanine,
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and then I will also take two grams of glycine and GABA,
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which I find greatly enhances my ability to get into sleep.
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But the reason I only add glycine and GABA
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every third or fourth night is that if I take it too often,
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I find that the entire sleep stack
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doesn't work quite as effectively.
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I don't know exactly why this is the case,
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but in any event, that's what I do.
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And more recently, I've also started using inositol,
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in particular, myoinositol every other night.
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I'll take 900 milligrams of myoinositol
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in addition to magthreonine, apigenin, and theanine,
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and not on the nights when I take glycine and GABA.
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So I'm adding 900 milligrams of inositol
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to the standard sleep stack
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of magthreonine, theanine, and apigenin.
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And what I find is not only does it greatly enhance
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my ability to fall asleep quickly,
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but if I wake up in the middle of the night,
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which I often do to use the bathroom,
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I find it very, very easy to fall back asleep.
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Whereas when I don't take inositol every other night or so,
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I find that if I wake up in the middle of the night,
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it's a bit more of a challenge to fall back asleep.
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So inositol has a number of different uses
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that have been discussed in terms of mental health
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and in terms of adjusting anxiety for its daytime use.
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What I'm talking about is taking 900 milligrams
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of myoinositol also 30 to 60 minutes before sleep,
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along with the standard sleep stack.
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And I found that to be immensely beneficial.
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I also noticed that it has a pretty long tail
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of anxiety suppression throughout the day.
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And I'm not somebody who suffers from anxiety,
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but I have to say it just has led me
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to feel a bit calmer throughout the day.
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And I don't really know how to say this,
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except in subjective terms,
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to feel a bit more buffered against
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or resilience against stress events.
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And if you look at the literature on inositol
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and its interactions with the serotonin system
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and other systems,
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that all makes sense as to why that would be the case.
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So we will provide links to our so-called sleep kit,
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which is part of our neural network newsletter.
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It's a zero cost newsletter
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where you can access this information
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about supplements and other behavioral tools
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for sleep in list form.
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But that sleep kit doesn't include
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some of the newer information
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that I've provided this episode,
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in particular the information about inositol
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and what I'm finding to be the very beneficial use
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of inositol for the ability to fall back asleep
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after waking up in the middle of the night,
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which is something that a lot of people struggle with.
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Now that's supplementation for falling and staying asleep,
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but we can return to the behavioral tools
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also as powerful levers and tools for falling asleep
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and getting back to sleep.
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And again, we look to NSDR, non-sleep deep rest,
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or the Reverie app as a way to do that.
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As I mentioned earlier,
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the Reverie app has been developed
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on the basis of really high quality peer reviewed research,
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both clinical and non-clinical
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by my colleague, David Spiegel,
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who's our associate chair of psychiatry at Stanford.
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It's a wonderful tool.
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It does carry a cost after the initial seven day trial.
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I can tell you what the cost on that is
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so you can get a sense because I do realize
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that anything that carries a cost,
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for some people, it won't be accessible.
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Right now, Reverie, and I should just mention,
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they didn't pay us for an ad read.
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I'm just telling you what they told me
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so that I can accurately report what it costs to use Reverie.
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They have a monthly subscription
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to use the Reverie app at 14.99.
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You do get the seven day free trial.
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They have a yearly subscription of 99.99
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with a seven day free trial,
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and they have a lifetime purchase,
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one-time purchase of 2.49 with no trial.
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Right now, it's only available for Apple, not for Android,
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but they are, yes, going to have it available for Android.
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Soon, there's a signup list there.
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I should mention that while the cost might seem high,
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if you compare that cost to, say, supplements,
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or you compare that cost to a poor night's sleep over time,
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the cost, at least to me, seems somewhat modest,
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certainly within range for a number of people,
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but I acknowledge not within range for other people,
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which is why I also want to point to zero cost tools,
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and the zero cost tool for getting asleep, staying asleep,
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and falling back asleep is going to be NSDR.
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We'll put a link to a non-sleep deep rest protocol
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that's available on YouTube,
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so available to anybody, zero cost,
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provided you have a internet connection.
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Again, dim the screen
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if you're going to turn that on late at night.
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And there are a number of other Yoganidra scripts,
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and apps, and sources around the internet,
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in particular on YouTube, that are zero cost
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that you could use if the Reverie app
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is outside your price range,
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or is not preferable to you, et cetera.
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When I wake up in the middle of the night,
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it's usually to use the restroom.
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I'll go use the restroom.
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We'll keep the lights as dim as possible.
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I'll get back into bed,
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and if I find that it's easy to fall asleep, great.
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I'm asleep.
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And if not, then I will generally plug in the Reverie app.
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They have a fallback asleep hypnosis,
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and 99 times out of 100,
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I'm back asleep within minutes,
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and I don't wake up until morning.
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Now, very briefly, I just want to touch on some tools
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that are very commonly used by many people out there.
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And believe it or not,
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there is peer-reviewed science on things like eye masks.
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Do eye masks improve your ability to stay asleep?
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And indeed, they do, provided they are not too tight,
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and provided that the room is cool enough.
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Why?
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Well, eye masks cover the upper half of your face,
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which is where glabrous skin is localized.
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Remember, palms of the hands,
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bottoms of heat, glabrous skin on the face.
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So a lot of people who wear eye masks will wake up
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because they're too warm if the room is too warm.
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So if you're going to use an eye mask to keep light out,
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definitely make sure the room and your sleeping environment
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and your bed are cool enough
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in order for you to stay asleep.
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In addition, I get a lot of questions about earplugs.
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Here's the deal with earplugs.
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Some people find that earplugs are very beneficial
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because, of course, they prevent the entrance of sound
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into the ear that could wake us up.
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But some people find that the sound of their own beating
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of their own heart can be disruptive.
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And they get a sort of humming in their head
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when they have those earplugs in.
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I'm one such person, although I have family members
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that like using earplugs when they sleep.
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So it's really up to you.
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You have to see whether or not those earplugs
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help or disrupt your sleep.
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For me, they're no good.
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For some people, they really enjoy them.
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I don't use an eye mask
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unless I'm sleeping in a really bright environment
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or I need to sleep on a plane and things of that sort.
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Other tools that I'll just mention
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that have peer-reviewed research to support them,
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elevating your feet either with a pillow
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or by elevating the end of your bed
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by about three to five degrees can be really beneficial
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for increasing the depth of sleep
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because of the so-called glymphatic washout.
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This is the movement and circulation of fluids
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in your brain at night that lead to more wakefulness
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and actually can improve cognitive function
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and a number of other things related to brain health.
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There's one caveat to that.
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For people that suffer from acid reflux,
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having your ankles elevated above your chest
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or above your heart in the middle of the night
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can actually exacerbate that acid reflux.
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You want to do the opposite.
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You want to actually elevate the head side of your bed
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by about three to five degrees.
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Now, one of the common causes of sleep disruption
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that has tremendously detrimental effects
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is so-called sleep apnea.
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So this is basically bouts of suffocation
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or lack of oxygenation during sleep.
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This is particularly the case for people
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that are very heavyset,
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and that heavyset could be from obesity.
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It could also be heavyset from having too much muscle.
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A lot of people who are carrying too much muscle
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will actually have sleep apnea without realizing it.
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Sleep apnea is actually very dangerous.
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It's associated with a number of cardiovascular issues.
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It's associated with sexual dysfunction.
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It's associated with issues with cognition.
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Sleep apnea is bad.
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A lot of people will have to use the PAP,
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which is a device.
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It looks like a sort of a snorkel mask or dive mask.
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It's a whole apparatus that people go to sleep with.
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However, many people can relieve themselves of sleep apnea
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provided it's not too serious and can sleep much better.
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In fact, I think all people can sleep much better
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if they train themselves to be nose breathers
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while they sleep.
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There are a lot of reasons to be a nose breather
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unless you are breathing very hard due to exercise
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or talking or eating.
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That was all covered in James Nestor's book,
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Breath, The New Science of a Lost Art.
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It's been covered in a number of different podcasts.
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We've talked about it on this podcast as well.
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It's a good idea to be a nose breather
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unless you need to mouth breathe.
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And it's a great idea.
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It's a superb idea to be a nose breather in sleep.
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And one way to really get good at that
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is to take a little bit of medical tape
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and to tape your mouth shut before going to sleep.
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You heard me right, put some medical tape over your mouth
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and force yourself to nose breathe during sleep.
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It also prevents snoring in most cases,
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really offset sleep apnea.
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Sleep apnea, again, being a very serious health concern.
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I should also mention as a tool
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that if you have a hard time being a nose breather in sleep,
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you can try doing your cardiovascular exercise,
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at least the lower intensity cardiovascular exercise
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through purely nasal breathing.
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And one way to do that again is to tape your mouth shut
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or put a gulp of water in your mouth,
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but don't actually swallow that mouthful of water
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or to use a mouthpiece or just deliberately
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keep your mouth closed
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and insist on breathing through your nose.
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Most people find that
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when they start doing cardiovascular exercise that way,
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it's really challenging at first,
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but over time they actually can feel quite calm
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and still can generate a lot of physical effort
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purely using nose breathing.
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The reason that doing nose breathing
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during cardiovascular exercise
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translates to being a nose breather during sleep
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is that your sinuses actually can dilate their plastic
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and over time, plastic meaning they're malleable, that is,
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and they can become wider.
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You're not going to get giant nostrils, don't worry about it.
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Your airways within your skull,
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because that's what the sinuses really are,
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these little passages within the skull
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and of course within the nasal passages,
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will dilate and will allow you
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to breathe more easily through your nose.
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But for those of you that are waking up
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in the middle of the night, breathing on your back,
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ah, ah, or your partner is telling you that,
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or other people are telling you that,
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or that person on the plane with your mouth hanging open
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and drooling and your mouth breathing,
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terrible, terrible, terrible
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for health reasons and other reasons.
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Put some medical take over your mouth,
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learn to be a nose breather during sleep.
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Your sleep will improve
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and your daytime feelings of wakefulness and focus
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will improve, your cardiovascular health will improve
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and on and on and on.
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So now we've largely covered the tools
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that one could use to get and stay asleep.
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01:28:10.720
And we talked about exercise, we talked about temperature,
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we talked about supplements, and we talked about,
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of course, keeping the sleeping environment
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both cool and as dark as possible.
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I do want to mention a couple of broad contour tools
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that will impact your ability to sleep really well
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on a consistent basis.
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And the one that impacts the most number of people
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is weekends.
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It turns out that most everybody feels the impulse
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to sleep in on the weekend,
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especially if they've been out late the night before.
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However, the data show that keeping
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relatively consistent sleep and wake times
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is really going to enhance the quality
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and depth of your sleep.
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So if you stay out late one night,
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sure, you might allow yourself to sleep in
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an extra hour or so,
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but you should really try to avoid sleeping in longer
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than an hour beyond your normal wake-up time.
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That's right.
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If you normally get eight hours of sleep
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and you wake up at 7 a.m.,
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probably okay to wake up at 8 a.m. on the weekend
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or after a night out the night before,
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but try not to sleep until 11 or noon,
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thinking that you're going to catch up on your sleep
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or that's better than waking up at a consistent time.
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It would be better to wake up at a consistent time,
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plus or minus an hour,
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and get a nap in the afternoon,
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provided that nap, again, isn't too long.
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And the other tool that relates to nights
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that you stayed out too late
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or that you feel like you want to sleep in a bit more
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in the morning is if you are going to wake up
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at your consistent time.
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So for example, normally you go to bed at 10
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and you wake up at six.
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Let's say that's your schedule.
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And you end up staying up late one night until midnight
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or one for whatever reason.
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And the next morning you wake up at seven
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and you're still groggy.
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In that case, you absolutely want to wait
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to ingest caffeine 90 to 120 minutes after waking.
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You really do because there are good data
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to support the fact that caffeine can disrupt sleep.
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Yes, that's obvious.
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Caffeine especially disrupts sleep
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if you take it too late in the day.
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That's very obvious as to why that would be the case.
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But caffeine especially disrupts
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what's called compensatory sleep.
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So if you start changing your waking time
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and your to sleep time
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and you start using additional caffeine
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to offset the sleepiness that you're experiencing
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because of those late nights out,
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well, that's when you really start to disrupt
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not just your nighttime sleep
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but your daytime compensatory sleep.
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So those naps, you also are disrupting
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the total architecture of sleep in the early morning hours.
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There's a lot of great science that's been put to this
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or that's emerged from this, I should say.
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So try and keep those sleep wake times relatively constant
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plus or minus an hour
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and try as much as you can to delay that caffeine intake
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90 to 120 minutes after waking every day
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but especially on days where you wake up
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and you feel you haven't gotten enough sleep.
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In that case, I highly recommend you just use NSDR
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or the Reverie app or some other form of deep relaxation
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to try and compensate for the lack of sleep.
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Knowing of course, that there's no complete compensation
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for lack of sleep.
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There are just things that we can do
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to partially offset lack of sleep.
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Now, a couple of final points and additional tools
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that I think are going to be useful to everybody.
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In particular, people who have young children
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or following a shift work schedule
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or who are experiencing jet lag.
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Keep in mind, jet lag can be due to travel, which is obvious
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but jet lag can also be due to getting woken up
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in the middle of the night, right?
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Your body doesn't know the difference
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between flying to a new time zone
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and getting woken up in the middle of the night.
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The tool that I'd like to offer you is an understanding
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of something called temperature minimum.
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And I'm going to make this as simple as possible
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and I'm confident that everyone can understand this
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even if you don't have any science background.
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Here's the question you need to ask yourself.
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What is your typical wake-up time?
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Okay, what's your typical wake-up time?
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If for you, your typical wake-up time
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is 7 a.m. plus or minus half an hour.
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So, and that could be 7 a.m. because you set an alarm clock
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or it could be 7 a.m. because you naturally wake up
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at 7 a.m., doesn't matter.
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If your typical wake-up time most days is 7 a.m.,
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well, then your temperature minimum is 5 a.m.
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That's right, your temperature minimum is not a temperature,
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it's a time within your 24-hour cycle.
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Approximately two hours before your typical wake-up time,
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your body is at its lowest temperature
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that it will ever be in the 24-hour cycle.
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That's why it's called your temperature minimum.
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Here's what you need to know about your temperature minimum.
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If you view bright light, exercise, or drink caffeine,
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or all of the above in the two to four hours
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before your temperature minimum,
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that will delay your clock.
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What that means when I say delay your clock
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is it will make you want to go to sleep later
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and wake up later the next night.
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Okay, so let's run this exercise for you,
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the person waking up at 7 a.m. on a regular basis.
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I can predict with almost certainty
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that your body is going to be at its lowest temperature
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at 5 a.m.
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So what that means is that if you get up at 3 a.m.
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or at 4 a.m., and you flip on bright lights in your house
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or in your bathroom, or you have a cup of coffee,
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or you do any kind of exercise,
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or you get up and head to the airport,
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the mechanisms in your brain and body
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that control timing of sleep and timing of waking
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will shift, they will delay.
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It's as if you put your clock on hold for a little while
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and then let it start again.
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That's the simplest way I can describe it.
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And you will tend to want to go to sleep later
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and wake up later the following night.
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Now, the opposite is true if you view bright light,
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drink caffeine, or exercise, or socialize, I should say,
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in the hours immediately after your temperature minimum.
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So for you, in this example,
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the person who's waking up at 7 a.m.,
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your temperature minimum is 5 a.m.,
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if you view bright light, exercise,
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maybe have a snack, maybe not, or socialize,
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move about at 5.30 or 6 a.m. or 7 a.m.,
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that will tend to phase advance your clock.
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It will tend to basically make you want to go to bed earlier
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and wake up earlier the following night.
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Now, I use this example of a person
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who wakes up typically at 7 a.m.,
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whose temperature minimum is 5 a.m.,
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but of course you need to adjust that for yourself
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if you're somebody who wakes up at 9 a.m. or at 5 a.m.,
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et cetera.
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Why do I offer this as a tool?
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Well, this is an immensely powerful tool
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if, for instance, you're headed to a time zone
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where you need to go to bed earlier
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and wake up earlier once you arrive in that time zone.
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What it means is in the day or two before you leave,
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you can force yourself to exercise, drink caffeine,
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maybe even to eat a meal early in the morning,
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or maybe you still fast early in the morning,
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and that's really up to you,
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but you force yourself to do the activities
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that are going to phase advance your clock,
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whereas if you're traveling to a time zone
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where you are going to need to go to sleep much later
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and you're going to need to wake up much later,
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even a little bit later,
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you can do those things in the hours
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prior to your temperature minimum.
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Now, for those of you that work shift work,
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this can be especially useful,
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but I want to say a couple of things about shift work.
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There are a lot of details about shift work and jet lag
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in an episode that I did specifically
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about jet lag and shift work,
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so for the deep dive, go there,
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but suffice to say this for now,
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if you are going to do shift work,
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try to stay on the same shift for two weeks at a time.
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It's very detrimental to brain and body.
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It can even be horrifically challenging
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for your brain and body in a number of ways.
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If you are switching on the so-called swing shift,
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you know, you're working three days the night shift,
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three days the day shift,
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three days the night shift, three days the,
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01:35:46.000
try and stay on the same schedule as much as possible,
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and I should say for everybody,
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people who are jet lagged and engaged in shift work or not,
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but just for everybody,
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if you need to be awake in the middle of your sleep cycle,
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and it's not just a quick departure to the bathroom
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and back to bed, but you really need to be awake.
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You know, you're feeding a baby
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or you're taking care of a loved one
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01:36:08.160
or you need to do something that's critical
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or you need to work, if possible, use red light, okay?
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01:36:13.000
Now, for shift workers who really are trying
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to stay awake all night and sleep all day,
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01:36:17.480
this is not going to be ideal,
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but for people that, for instance, need to stay up
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01:36:21.160
really late one night or wake up especially early,
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like 3 a.m. to prepare for an exam
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that you're just not ready for,
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or to head to the airport, et cetera,
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01:36:29.360
using red light has been shown to allow people
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to be awake enough and obviously see what they need to see
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01:36:34.760
in order to perform their activity safely,
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01:36:37.080
but it does not seem to disrupt the cortisol rhythm
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that is the healthy, normal cortisol rhythm.
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I realize this is kind of an advanced tool
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and many people won't have access to this.
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01:36:46.920
There are a number of different sources
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01:36:48.200
for red lights now.
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Companies like Juve or Cozy Light,
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these are different brands.
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I don't have any affiliation to any of these brands,
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I should say.
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There are a number of different red light bulb sources
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out there and commercial sources
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that you can explore if you want,
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but understanding this temperature minimum
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is really powerful because it allows you
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01:37:07.020
to adjust your schedule depending on travel,
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01:37:08.800
depending on changing work schedules or school schedules,
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01:37:11.520
and if you're not a morning person,
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01:37:12.880
you can use the tools related to temperature minimum
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to really become a morning person over time,
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01:37:18.600
and it actually is pretty easy,
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and I talked about this in a previous episode,
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but I'll just mention that there have been shown
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to be important positive effects on cognition,
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on even grip strength and physical performance
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01:37:29.680
for people that are early morning risers,
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and that's especially true for night owls
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that deliberately shift themselves to become early risers.
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Okay, so that's a lot of information and a lot of tools,
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and I suppose the one set of tools
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that I really didn't drill into too deeply,
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01:37:45.280
the ones related to jet lag and shift work,
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01:37:47.080
and again, please check out the episode
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01:37:49.220
on jet lag and shift work if that's relevant to you,
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01:37:52.160
but I think for most people who are going to sleep at night
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01:37:55.920
and are trying their best to sleep well at night
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01:37:58.500
and are trying their best to wake up in the morning
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01:38:00.640
at whatever hour and stay alert and focused
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01:38:02.800
throughout the day and maybe with a brief nap,
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01:38:04.840
the tools that I talked about today
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related to light temperature, food, exercise,
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caffeine, supplements, and digital tools,
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01:38:12.400
I'm hoping will prove to be very useful for you.
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They certainly are all supported
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01:38:17.220
by excellent peer-reviewed research,
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and I should just emphasize again
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that most of the tools we talked about
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are completely zero cost,
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01:38:24.520
so while the supplements and some of the digital tools
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do carry some cost to them,
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01:38:29.060
I really want to encourage everybody
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to get your behaviors right,
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01:38:32.240
get all of the things related to your timing of exercise
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01:38:35.280
and type of exercise in the best possible order
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01:38:39.320
and time of day.
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01:38:40.160
We talked about this critical period early in the day
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and then another critical period in the middle of the day
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01:38:44.460
and the late afternoon,
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01:38:45.360
and then this third critical period
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01:38:46.600
in the middle of the night.
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01:38:47.540
Different tools for the different three critical periods.
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01:38:50.680
I promise that if you start to implement some
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01:38:53.220
or ideally all of these tools,
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01:38:55.460
the quality of your sleep will increase tremendously,
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01:38:58.360
and of course, in doing so,
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01:39:00.400
the quality of your daytime alertness
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01:39:02.160
and your ability of focus will improve tremendously.
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01:39:04.560
Again, sleep is the absolute foundation
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01:39:08.480
of your mental health, your physical health,
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01:39:10.320
and your performance in all endeavors.
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01:39:12.280
So if there's one area of your life to really focus on
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01:39:22.960
I can confidently say that sleep
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is really the thing to optimize.
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