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The Science of Making & Breaking Habits | Huberman Lab Podcast #53



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Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast,
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where we discuss science and science-based tools
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for everyday life.
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I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology
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and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.
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Today, we're talking all about habits.
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In particular, we're going to discuss the biology
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of habit formation and the biology of how we break habits.
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I think we can all appreciate the value of having habits.
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Habits organize our behavior into more or less
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reflexive actions, so we don't have to think too much
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about performing the various behaviors that, for instance,
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allow us to brush our teeth or which side of bed
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we roll out of in the morning.
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And then of course, habits can be more elaborate too.
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We can be in the habit of exercising
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at a particular time of day.
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We can be in the habit of eating certain foods.
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We can be in the habit of saying
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or not saying certain things.
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But of course, there are many habits
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that don't serve us well, or that perhaps even undermine
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our immediate and long-term health goals
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and psychological goals, and even some habits
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that can really undermine our overall life goals.
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So today, we're going to talk about making,
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meaning forming, and breaking,
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meaning stopping various habits.
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There's a lot of information out there about habits.
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You'll find this in the popular sphere.
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There are books, there are articles,
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there are workshops, and so forth.
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However, lesser known is that there's a whole neuroscience
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of habit formation and habit breaking,
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and there's a whole field of psychology
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devoted to understanding habit formation
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and habit breaking.
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And within those scientific literatures,
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I think there are some real gems
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that at least to my knowledge,
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we haven't paid too much attention to
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in the popular sphere.
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So today, we're going to talk about the biology
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of habit formation and habit breaking.
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I'm also going to spell out two specific types
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of habit formation and habit breaking programs.
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I'm going to boil these down to some very explicit steps
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that anyone can use.
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My reasoning for doing that is, first of all,
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it's the end of 2021.
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Many people are thinking about New Year's resolutions.
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They're thinking about leaving some things behind
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from 2021 and previous,
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and acquiring some new behaviors,
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taking on some new challenges
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and trying to bring new things to their lives.
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But regardless of when you're listening to this,
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the programs that I'll outline
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are grounded in the neuroscience
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and biology of habit formation,
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and they map very well to what the psychologists
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have described in terms of habit formation and breaking.
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So today, you're going to learn a lot of science.
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You're also going to come away with some practical tools,
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and I'm certain that regardless of your present state
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or goals, there'll be something of value to you.
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Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize
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that this podcast is separate from my teaching
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and research roles at Stanford.
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It is, however, part of my desire and effort
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to bring zero cost to consumer information about science
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and science-related tools to the general public.
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Let's talk about habits,
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and anytime we're talking about habits,
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that means our nervous system learns something.
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Now, many people think that habits are just like reflexes,
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but pure reflexes are things like the eye blink reflex.
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You know, something comes toward your eye
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and you don't want it to get in your eye.
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You'll blink, or if you happen to step on a sharp object
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or get too close to something that's too hot,
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you'll reflexively move away.
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Those aren't habits.
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Those are what we call hardwired reflexes.
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Habits are things that our nervous system learned,
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but not always consciously.
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Sometimes we develop habits that we're not even aware of
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until they become a problem,
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or maybe they serve us well, who knows?
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But the fact of the matter is
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that habits are a big part of who we are.
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What we do habitually makes up much of what we do entirely.
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In fact, it's estimated that up to 70%
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of our waking behavior is made up of habitual behavior.
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So you can imagine that there's a lot of biology,
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meaning cells and hormones and neural pathways, et cetera,
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that are going to support the development of those habits.
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So if habits are largely learned,
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consciously or unconsciously,
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we have to ask ourselves, what is learning?
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Well, learning is neuroplasticity.
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Neuroplasticity is simply the process
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by which our nervous system changes
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in response to experience.
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We have to ask, what changes?
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Well, what changes are the connections between neurons.
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Neurons are just nerve cells.
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They communicate with one another by electricity
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and by sending chemical signals to one another
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that inspire the next neuron and the next neuron
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to either be electrically active or not.
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But at the end of the day,
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neuroplasticity is about forming new neural circuits,
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new pathways by which certain habits are likely to occur
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and other ones are less likely to occur.
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So we've got habits.
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We have that habits are learned.
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We have that learning involves neuroplasticity
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and that neuroplasticity involves changes
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in the connections between neurons, nerve cells.
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Okay, so that describes habits
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through the lens of neuroscience and biology.
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But as many of you are well aware,
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there are popular books about habits
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and there's a whole psychological literature about habits.
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And those two areas point to some very interesting aspects
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of habits that I think are worth mentioning.
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First of all, is this notion of immediate goal-based habits
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versus identity-based habits.
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Immediate goal-based habits are going to be habits
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that are designed to bring you a specific outcome
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as you do them.
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So each and every time you do them.
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So for instance, it might be that you want to develop
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a habit of getting 60 minutes of zone two cardio each day
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or perhaps three, four times a week
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as we head into the new year.
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I've talked before on the podcast
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about the fact that the scientific literature
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and the health literature really points
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to the incredibly positive effects
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of getting 150 minutes to 180 minutes per week minimum
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of what's called zone two cardio.
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Zone two cardio is basically any cardiovascular exercise
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that gets you moving and your heart pumping and breathing
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but not so hard that you can't hold a conversation.
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As it kind of puts you at the threshold
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of being just able to have a conversation
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that's a little bit strained.
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But if you were to exercise a little bit harder,
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you know, run a little bit faster, et cetera,
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you wouldn't be able to talk while you did it.
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There's a lot of literature that points
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to that as a healthy practice.
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So maybe you're somebody that wants to get more
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of zone two cardio, for instance.
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That would be an immediate goal-based habit.
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If your goal is to get that cardio maybe four times a week,
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every time you do it, you could check off a little box
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and you'd say, okay, I did it, you met the goal.
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That is different than so-called identity-based habits
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where there's a larger overarching theme to the habit
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where you're trying to become quote unquote, a fit person,
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or you're somebody who wants to be an athlete
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or something of that sort.
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It's where you start to attach some sort of larger picture
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about yourself or what it means for you to do that habit
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where there's both the immediate goal, right?
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Complete the exercise, complete the session
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or whatever it is, check off that box,
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but that you're linking it to some sort of larger goal.
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Now, why am I making this distinction?
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I mean, first of all,
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I'm not the one to first make this distinction.
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Others have made the distinction between identity
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versus immediate goal-based habit formation.
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But the reason I'm making the distinction is that pretty
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soon in our discussion today,
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we are going to talk about dopamine,
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a molecule that's associated with motivation and reward
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that we make in our brain and how different schedules
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of dopamine release predict whether or not we will stick
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to a habit or not.
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And in particular, whether or not we will be able
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to form that habit quickly or not.
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Now, this is absolutely critical to understand
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for the following reason.
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Another thing that you'll hear out there in the literature
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is that it takes 21 days to form a habit.
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Some people say 18, some people say 21,
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some people say 30 days, some people say 60 days.
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So which one is it?
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Does it depend on the habit that one is trying to form
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or does it depend on the person
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that's trying to form the habit?
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Well, it turns out that there's excellent
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peer reviewed data on this.
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There's a study published in 2010,
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first author Lally, L-A-L-L-Y.
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This study found that for the same habit to be formed,
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it can take anywhere from 18 days to as many as 254 days
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for different individuals to form that habit.
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The reason I bring this up is that I always get asked,
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is it true that it takes 21 days to form a habit?
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Is it true that your nervous system changes in six days
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when you're doing something repeatedly?
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And the answer is, as I mentioned before,
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it's highly variable.
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What I didn't tell you actually was what specific habit
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they were looking at in that Lally study.
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And it's interesting that the specific behavior
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was a health related behavior.
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That's pretty relevant to our discussion here on the podcast,
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which was taking walks after dinner.
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There's actually a really nice literature showing
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that walks after a meal can speed glucose clearance
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from the bloodstream, can be beneficial
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for not just weight loss,
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but cardiovascular health, et cetera.
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So a walk after dinner seems pretty straightforward, right?
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Well, in order to form that habit,
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it took some people 18 days and other people 254 days.
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How did they know when they formed the habit?
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Well, they were doing it about 85% of the time.
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And they also reported not having to spend
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that much mental effort in order to get into the mode
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of taking a walk after dinner.
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So for those of you listening,
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some of you might be thinking,
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I can't believe that it would take some people 254 days
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to get into that habit.
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But as I said, people are highly variable.
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And if you can't form one habit easily,
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it doesn't mean that you can't form other habits easily.
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The mystery of why certain people can form certain habits
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more easily than others probably has something to do
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with how well people manage what's called limbic friction.
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Now, limbic friction is not a term that you're going to find
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in the formal neurobiological literature
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or even psychological literature.
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It's frankly a term that I coined to encompass a number
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of different pieces of the psychology
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and neuroscience literature.
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Limbic friction is a shorthand way that I use
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to describe the strain that's required
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in order to overcome one of two states within your body.
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One state is one of anxiousness where you're really anxious
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and therefore you can't calm down, you can't relax,
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and therefore you can't engage in some particular activity
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or thought pattern that you would like.
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The other state is one in which you're feeling too tired
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or lazy or not motivated.
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Both of those states, feeling too alert and too calm,
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if you will, relate to the function
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of the so-called autonomic nervous system,
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a set of neurons and hormones and chemicals
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in your brain and body that act as sort of a seesaw.
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You're either alert or calm.
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You're either asleep or stressed.
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Those two states are not compatible with one another.
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You've probably heard of wired and tired,
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but that's really once you've been very stressed
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for a long time to the point where you're exhausted.
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What does the autonomic nervous system
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have to do with any of this?
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Well, limbic friction is a phrase that can be used
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to describe how much effort, how much activation energy
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you need in order to engage in a particular behavior.
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So using this LALI study as an example,
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some people would eat dinner and then say,
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oh, that's right, I'm trying to develop the habit
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of taking a walk after dinner, so let's get up and go.
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Other people will feel like,
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I just don't want to do it today.
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They're going to feel too much limbic friction,
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and that limbic friction could arrive,
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again, from one of two sources.
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It could be because they are too tired to do it,
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or it could be because they're too anxious
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and distracted in order to do it.
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So this is a key distinction.
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A lot of habit formation has to do
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with being in the right state of mind
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and being able to control your state of body and mind.
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So as we march forward,
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what you're going to find is that this phrase
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or this term limbic friction is going to be a useful metric
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or way for you to touch in with yourself
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and address whether or not you are likely to be able
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to form a certain habit easily
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or whether or not it's going to be very challenging.
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And I'm going to teach you a way
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to measure your degree of limbic friction,
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that is how much activation energy it will take
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in order for you to execute a new habit.
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And I'm going to teach you how to measure your limbic
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friction and activation energy for how likely it is
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that you're going to be able to break a habit
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that you don't want to have.
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The other key concept for us to address
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that's really mainly found in the books
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and articles out there about habits
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is this notion of what I call linchpin habits.
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Lynchpin habits are certain habits that make a lot
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of other habits easier to execute.
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Now, the sorts of linchpin habits that I'm referring to
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are always going to be things that you enjoy doing.
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I'll just give you an example from my life.
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I happen to like exercise, not all forms of exercise,
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but I happen to like resistance training
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and I happen to like running.
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So I'm personally in the habit of getting
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cardiovascular exercise three or four times per week,
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maybe 30 to 60 minutes per session.
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And I'm in the habit of doing resistance training
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three or four times per week,
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typically also for about 45 to 60 minutes per session.
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Now I enjoy those.
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And for reasons that I'll get into a little bit later,
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I place those activities typically early in the day
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because of the neurochemistry
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and the various types of hormones, et cetera,
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that are associated with performing those activities.
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But I really place those activities under the umbrella
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of what I call linchpin habits.
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Why?
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Because those particular habits are easy to execute
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because I enjoy them,
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but they also make a lot of other habits easier to execute.
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Things like being alert for work,
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things like making sure that I get good sleep
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the night before, things like hydration,
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things like making sure that I eat the foods
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that are better for me than maybe some of the other foods
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that I would more reflexively reach to
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if I weren't doing that training.
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So certain habits act as linchpins,
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meaning that they shift a lot of other things.
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They can control and bias the likelihood that in this case,
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you or me will perform other habits
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that are harder to access,
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that we have less of an affinity for.
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So again, there's three concepts
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that we need to include here.
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We've got identity-based versus goal-based habits.
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We've got the concept that different habits
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take different periods of time to adopt
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depending on the person and the habit,
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and that there are these, what I call linchpin habits,
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certain habits that make other habits easier to execute.
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And those linchpin habits always, always, always
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are things that we enjoy doing.
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So our goal throughout this episode
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is for you to identify which habits
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are easy for you to perform,
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which ones are hard for you to perform,
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and which habits you want to break.
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If you want to grab a pen and paper, you can do that,
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or if you want to dictate some of that into your phone,
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you can, but right now, actually,
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if you just want to think about these concepts,
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can always go back later.
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I'll make sure to spell out a very specific way
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that you can chart out a map
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towards forming particular habits
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and breaking particular habits later on.
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What I'd like us to do at this point
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is to take that concept of limbic friction
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and for you to ask yourself
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what habits you perform on a daily basis.
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And these could be things as basic
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as brushing your teeth before breakfast
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or brushing your teeth after breakfast.
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It could be, for instance, that you get exercise
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or you get it at a particular time of day,
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or even that you take a particular route to work, right?
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We are very habitual and we tend to do things
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more or less over and over in the same way
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unless we intervene in ourselves.
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That's just the way that we are wired.
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So now I'd like to shift to thinking
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about a particular aspect of habits,
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and that's habit strength.
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You all have different habits.
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You probably brush your teeth at a particular time of day.
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You probably exercise at particular times a week.
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You probably go to the refrigerator in a very habitual way.
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We are incredibly habitual organisms.
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Unless we intervene in our habits,
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they tend to carry out the same way
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that they always have once they've formed.
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So you can do this exercise now.
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You don't have to write this down if you don't want to,
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but you certainly are welcome.
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We're going to evaluate what's called habit strength.
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That's not a concept that I created.
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Habit strength is something that you will find
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in the psychological literature.
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Habit strength is measured by two main criteria.
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The first is how context dependent a given habit is.
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So context dependence is if you go
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from one environment to the next,
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do you tend to do the same thing in the same way
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at the same time of day?
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So for instance, brushing your teeth
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first thing in the morning,
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maybe some of you do that before breakfast,
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maybe some of you do that later,
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maybe some of you like me don't even eat breakfast.
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But when I travel, I tend to brush my teeth
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at more or less the same time of day
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relative to when I wake up as I do when I'm at home.
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So it's context independent.
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So it's a very strong habit, right?
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There are certain behaviors like perhaps what you eat
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or perhaps how you dress that are context independent
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that you might perform one way in one context
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and another way in another context.
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The other aspect of habit strength
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is how much limbic friction is required
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to perform that habit on a regular basis.
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This is extremely important
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because if you were in the process of building habits
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and consolidating those habits,
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then it's probably going to take more limbic friction
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to execute those habits.
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What do I mean by that?
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Well, let's say you set out to get,
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let's say 45 minutes of zone two cardio exercise every day,
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five or maybe even seven days a week.
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Well, if at first you're highly motivated,
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limbic friction might be pretty low.
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Limbic friction is how much top-down,
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meaning from your forebrain to your limbic system,
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the part of your brain that generates autonomic responses,
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how much limbic friction, meaning conscious override
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of your state is required
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in order to engage in that particular behavior.
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So if you're feeling particularly tired
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and you don't want to get up out of bed
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and you don't want to go out into your zone two cardio,
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then there's a high degree of limbic friction.
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It takes more, some people think of it as motivation,
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but motivation is a bit of a vague concept
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whereas limbic friction involves specific neural circuits.
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And you can think of it in a more or less quantitative way.
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You can think of that your body is very tired,
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so it's going to take more limbic friction
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in order to get into action, right?
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You're going to have to overcome more limbic friction,
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excuse me, whereas if you're very, very alert,
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there's less limbic friction
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because you're moving towards something
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that's action-oriented.
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However, the inverse is also true.
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Let's say that you are trying to get into the habit
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or you're in the early stages of forming a habit
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to meditate regularly.
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That's a pretty quiescent or calming activity.
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So if you're somebody who comes home from work
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and you're very anxious and you have a lot of work to do
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and you have to deal with a bunch of things,
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there's a lot of limbic friction to overcome
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in order to get into that calm state.
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So these two aspects, context dependence,
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whether or not you're likely to do the thing
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regardless of where you are, right?
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On travel, at home, on vacation, with people around,
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not people around, et cetera,
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and how much limbic friction is required
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to execute that habit will tell you
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whether or not that habit is deeply
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or just shallowly embedded within your nervous system.
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The goal of any habit that we want to form
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is to get into what's called automaticity.
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Automaticity is fancy language
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for the neural circuits can perform it automatically.
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And that's the ultimate place to be, right?
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If you have all these goals and things
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that you want to be doing on a regular basis,
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you'd love for them to be habitual
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because it takes less mental and physical effort,
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less limbic friction in order to execute those.
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And so much of what's out there, again,
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in the popular psychology literature,
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in books that you'll find on the bookstore shelf
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and on Amazon and in the airports,
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are about how to get from that mode
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of high degree of limbic friction to automaticity.
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And they offer a number of different ways,
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I think many of which are useful,
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trying to get you to organize different types of habits
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into different bins like value-based and goal-based
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and trying to persuade you that structuring habits
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at the particular times of day
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or in a particular way are going to be beneficial.
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And indeed, I think they have helped a lot of people.
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So what I'd like to do is to take the scientific literature
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of how the nervous system learns
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and engages in neuroplasticity
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and apply that to habit formation,
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habit maintenance, and if so desired,
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how to break particular habits.
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I'd like to give you a particular tool
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that's gleaned from the research psychology literature.
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I should mention that I learned about this
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from an excellent review article that's available online.
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It's called Psychology of Habit.
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The authors are Wendy Wood and Dennis Runger.
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This is published in Annual Review of Psychology.
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The Annual Reviews series is a very high quality series.
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There are annual reviews of neuroscience,
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annual reviews of psychology,
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annual reviews of nutrition science, et cetera.
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For those of you that are interested
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in exploring review articles that are grounded
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in hundreds of quality peer-reviewed studies,
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the Annual Review series is really terrific,
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certainly among the best, if not the best.
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And they also tend to be quite long and quite comprehensive.
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So this review,
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Psychology of Habit by Wood and Runger, is excellent.
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And here I'm more or less paraphrasing from them,
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so I want to be clear that these are their words, not mine.
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They're talking about the various ways
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that habits form in the nervous system.
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And they mention with each repetition of a habit,
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small changes occur in the cognitive and neural mechanisms
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associated with procedural memory.
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So I just want to talk for a second
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about what procedural memory is.
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In the neuroscience of memory,
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we distinguish between what's called episodic memory
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and procedural memory.
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Episodic memory is a recall of a particular set of events
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that happened, whereas procedural memory is holding in mind
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the specific sequence of things that need to happen
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in order for a particular outcome to occur.
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So think of it like a recipe or a protocol,
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or if for sake of exercise, it's like sets and reps
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or a particular course that you're going to run or cycle
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or the number of laps you're going to swim
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and how you're going to perform it.
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It's very clear that for anyone trying to adopt new habits,
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getting into the mindset of procedural memory
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is very useful for overcoming that barrier
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that we call limbic friction.
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How do you do that?
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Well, a simple visualization exercise,
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or it doesn't even have to be done eyes closed.
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Oftentimes we hear visualization exercise,
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you think about sitting in the Lotus position, eyes closed,
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and trying really hard to visualize something.
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It doesn't need to be anything like that.
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It can simply be if you are deciding to adopt a new habit,
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to just think about the very specific sequence of steps
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that's required to execute that habit.
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And I'll use a trivial example,
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but this could be applied to anything.
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Let's say I want to get into the habit of making myself
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or someone else in my household
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a cup of espresso every morning.
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I would actually think through each of those steps,
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walk into the kitchen, turn on the espresso machine,
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draw the espresso, walking through each of those steps
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from start to finish.
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It turns out just that simple mental exercise done once
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can shift people toward a much higher likelihood
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of performing that habit regularly,
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not just the first time,
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but as they continue out into the days and weeks that follow.
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So that's remarkable to me.
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And the literature is really robust.
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Just one mental exercise of thinking through
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what are the sequence of steps required
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in order to perform this habit from start to finish
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can shift the likelihood of being able to perform that habit
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from unlikely or to moderately likely
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to very likely over time.
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And that's because it pulls from this process
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that involves our hippocampus and our neocortex
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and other areas of our brain and nervous system
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that engage in procedural memory.
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It shifts the brain towards a mindset, if you will.
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It's more of a neural circuit set,
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it would be more accurate,
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but a mindset slash neural circuit set
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of doing things in a particular sequence,
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which allows that limbic friction to come down
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and increases the likelihood
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that we're going to perform that thing.
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Simple tool, but very powerful tool
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according to the psychology literature.
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And actually the cellular and molecular mechanisms
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that underlie that sort of procedural memory
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stepping through phenomenon are known.
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In this article I mentioned, this beautiful review,
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they talk about so-called Hebbian learning.
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Donald Hebb was a psychologist in Canada
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and birthed this field that has now lasted,
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gosh, more than 50 years and is still very strong
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in neuroscience and psychology of Hebbian learning.
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Hebbian learning is when particular neurons are co-active,
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meaning when they fire together,
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they tend to strengthen their connections with one another.
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And it has a number of different
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underlying cellular and molecular features
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that we don't have to go into in detail.
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But for those of you that want to know,
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I know some of you are hungry
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for a little bit more neuroscience.
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This involves things like NMDA receptors
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and methyl deaspartate receptors.
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NMDA receptors are really important,
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I think for everyone to understand.
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So I'll just tell you a little bit about them.
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These are receptors that are on the neuron surface
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and normally they don't contribute much
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to the activity of those neurons.
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Those neurons are perfectly capable of doing their thing
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without activation of this NMDA receptor.
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But when a neuron gets a very strong input,
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a strong stimulus, that NMDA receptor
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triggers a number of mechanisms that recruit
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to the surface of the neuron more other receptors.
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In other words, it makes that neuron more responsive
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to input in the future,
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such that it doesn't require so much input.
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In other words, it takes a neuron
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that is very unlikely to fire
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and makes it more likely to fire.
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So this procedural stepping through
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of the steps of the recipe or the series of action steps
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that are involved in sitting down to study
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and writing for an hour or generating exercise,
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whatever it is, the habit that you're trying to learn,
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when you're doing that exercise,
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it's not as if your nervous system
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thinks you're actually performing the behavior.
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Your nervous system isn't stupid.
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It's actually a lot smarter than that.
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It knows the difference between a thought and an action.
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But when you do that, it sets in motion the same neurons
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that are going to be required for the execution
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of that habit.
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And so when you actually show up to perform that habit,
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it's as if the dominoes fall more easily.
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It's a lower threshold, as we say,
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in order to get the habit to perform.
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So heavy in learning, NMDA receptors,
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all that nuts and bolts stuff,
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really the guts of the mechanisms of how this works.
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But for those of you that just want to be more habitual
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about certain things,
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be able to perform certain things more reflexively
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that you would like in your life,
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simply take the time, do it once, maybe twice,
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and just sit down, close your eyes if you like,
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and just step through the procedure
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of what it's going to take in order to perform that habit.
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The psychology literature, as I mentioned,
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and also the neuroscience literature
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strongly supports the fact
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that it is going to make it far easier for you to adopt
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and maintain that habit.
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And if you are somebody who used to perform a habit
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and you don't understand why you dropped it
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and you're frustrated with yourself
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and you're trying to figure out
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how you can get back into that habit,
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well, by all means, lean right back into that habit.
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But if you're having trouble doing that,
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also just use the procedural memory exercise
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in order to shift your nervous system
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toward a higher likelihood
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that you will return to that habit,
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just the same way I described
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for trying to initiate a new habit.
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So now I'd like to discuss a second
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and what I think is perhaps the most powerful tool
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for being able to acquire and stick to new habits.
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This tool is rooted in what we call neural circuits.
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And I do think it is important to understand a little bit
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about how those neural circuits work.
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For those of you that are saying, just tell me what to do.
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I have to say, as I always say,
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understanding a little bit or a lot of underlying mechanism
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will help solidify these concepts for you
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and will help ensure that the tools that I offer
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are going to make sense
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and that they're going to make sense in different contexts
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and for different types of habits
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that you're trying to learn.
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So rather than just tell you what to do,
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I'm going to tell you how this particular tool works.
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And then in doing that,
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you should be able to apply it to any habit
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under any conditions.
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The tool that I'm referring to
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is something called task bracketing.
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And the neural circuits associated with task bracketing
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are basically the neural circuits
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that are going to allow you to learn any new type of habit
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or break any habit that you'd like to break.
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We have in our brain a set of neural circuits
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that fall under the umbrella term of the basal ganglia.
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The basal ganglia are involved in action execution,
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meaning doing certain things,
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and action suppression, not doing certain things.
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In the experimental realm,
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these are referred to as go, meaning do,
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or no go, don't do certain things.
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And some of us fall more into the category
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of we find it very easy to do certain things
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but harder to not do other things.
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Some people have a lot of no-go type circuits
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that are very robust,
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and they have a lot of behavioral constraint,
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but they have a harder time getting into action.
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And some people have a perfect balance of both,
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but I've never met one of those people.
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So again, drawing from and more or less paraphrasing
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from this beautiful review that I described earlier
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in annual review of psychology, excuse me,
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by Wood and Runger,
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task bracketing involves a particular set of neural circuits
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within the basal ganglia.
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So I'm going to describe this here, again,
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paraphrasing a sensory motor loop.
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Sensory means just input coming in about sight,
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sounds, tastes, et cetera.
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And then the motor systems,
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the systems of the brain and body that generate action,
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taking that information and generating action.
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So it turns out that there's an area of our basal ganglia
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called the dorsolateral striatum.
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We can use the acronym DLS.
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Again, dorsolateral striatum.
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Dorsal means up, lateral means to the side,
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so dorsolateral.
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And striatum is a subdivision of the basal ganglia.
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And it's very important for the establishment of behaviors
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that are associated with a habit,
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but not necessarily the habit itself.
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And beautiful studies in both animals and humans
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that record the electrical activity
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in the dorsolateral striatum
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find that the dorsolateral striatum is associated,
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meaning it becomes active,
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at the beginning of a particular habit
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and at the very end and after a particular habit.
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Hence the phrase task bracketing, it brackets the habit.
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Now, other sets of neurons are going to be active
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during the actual execution of the habit.
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But what the literature on the dorsolateral striatum
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tells us is that we have particular circuits in our brain
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that are devoted to framing the events
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that happened just before and as we initiate a habit
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and just after and as we terminate a habit.
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In other words, it acts as a sort of marker
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for the habit execution,
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but not the execution of the habit per se.
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This is very important because task bracketing
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is what underlies whether or not a habit
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will be context dependent or not,
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whether or not it will be strong and likely to occur
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even if we didn't get a good night's sleep the night before,
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even if we're feeling distracted,
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even if we are not feeling like doing something emotionally,
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or if we are completely overwhelmed by other events,
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if the neural circuits for task bracketing
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are deeply embedded in us,
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meaning they are very robust around a particular habit,
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well, then it's likely that we're going to go out
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for that zone two cardio no matter what,
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that we're going to brush our teeth no matter what.
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In fact, brushing our teeth is a pretty good example
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because for most people,
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even if you've got a terrible night's sleep,
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even if everything in your life is going wrong,
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chances are, unless you're very depressed,
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if you're going to leave to work, or even if you're not,
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that you're going to still carry out the behavior
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of brushing your teeth in the morning,
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I would hope so actually,
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but you are probably less likely to perform
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particular habits that are not what you deem as necessary.
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But if you think about it, brushing your teeth,
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exercise, eating particular foods,
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maybe engaging socially in particular ways,
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you are the one that places any kind of value assessment
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on which ones are essential and which ones are negotiable.
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So task bracketing sets a neural imprint,
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a kind of a fingerprint in your brain
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of this thing has to happen at this particular time of day,
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so much so that it's reflexive.
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And as we'll talk about in a moment,
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there's a way that you can build up task bracketing
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so that regardless of what it is you're trying to learn,
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there's a much higher probability
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that you're going to do that thing.
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And when I say learn,
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meaning let's say you're trying to acquire a habit
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that for you is really challenging.
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Maybe it's that you're going to write for an hour a day
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on a book project that you've been thinking about,
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or you're going to work on mathematics,
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or you're going to do any sort of thing that for you,
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there's a lot of limbic friction.
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While it is important to think about the sequence of events
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that would be required in order to engage in that behavior,
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00:36:38.440
that procedural memory visualization exercise
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we talked about before, that will help.
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There is a way also that you can orient your nervous system
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toward this task bracketing process
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so that your nervous system is shifted or oriented
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towards the execution of a given habit.
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So this is sort of like warming up your body to exercise.
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When the dorsolateral striatum is engaged,
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your body and your brain are primed to execute a habit,
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and then you get to consciously insert
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which habit you want to perform.
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So in order to leverage the neural mechanisms
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of task bracketing in order to increase the likelihood
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that you're going to perform a particular habit,
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I have to break it to you that one thing
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that you've probably heard over and over
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about habit formation is not true.
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And what I'm referring to is this idea
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that if you are very specific
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about exactly when you're going to perform a particular habit
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that you are more likely to perform that habit.
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And while that is true in the short term,
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it is not true in the long term.
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And the reason for that is that our nervous system
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tends to generate particular kinds of behaviors
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based not on time, but on our state,
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meaning what level of activation is taking place
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in our brain and body, how much focus we happen to have,
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how fatigued we are, how energized we are.
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So while schedules are important,
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it's not the specific time of day per se
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that's going to allow you to get into a habit
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and form that habit and consolidate that habit.
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Rather, it's the state that your brain and body are in
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that's important to anchor yourself to.
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So now I'm going to offer you a tool.
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It's actually an entire program
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by which you can insert particular habits and activities
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at particular phases of the day,
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not times of day, but phases of the day,
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because it turns out that particular phases of the day
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are associated with particular biological underpinnings,
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chemicals and neural circuits and so forth.
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And in doing so, it will make it far more likely
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that you'll be able to regularly engage in these habits
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and activities over a long period of time.
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Now, whether or not that will move you from somebody
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who ordinarily would take 200 days to form a habit
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to one of those 18 days to habit people
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in that earlier study I mentioned, I don't know,
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but I am certain that it will have a significant shift
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on allowing you to engage in particular habits more easily
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and to consolidate those habits more quickly.
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So the program I am about to describe,
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I formulated for you based on the neuroscience literature
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and the psychology literature of learning
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and this concept of task bracketing.
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It involves dividing the 24 hour days
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into what I call three phases.
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The first is phase one, which is zero to eight hours
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after waking up approximately, okay?
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You can put a plus or minus 30 minutes on this for yourself.
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The second phase is the nine to 14,
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maybe 15 hours after you wake up.
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And the third phase is 16 to 24 hours after waking up.
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So we've taken the 24 hour cycle,
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we've carved it up into three phases,
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phase one, phase two and phase three.
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Now, everything I'm describing,
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or at least the way I'm going to describe it
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is based on what I would call a typical schedule,
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diurnal schedule.
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You've heard of nocturnal?
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Well, we are diurnal.
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Most of us are asleep at night and awake during the day.
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I do realize that a number of people have shift work
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or they have newborns or other reasons
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why they have to be up in the middle of the night
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and sleeping during the day.
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If that's the case, please listen to the episode
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that we did on jet lag and shift work
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because it has a lot of tools
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specifically for that population.
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But most people go to sleep somewhere around 10 p.m.,
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plus or minus two hours,
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and wake up sometime around 7 a.m.,
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plus or minus two hours.
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So today I'm going to use the two bed at 10 p.m.
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and the wake up time of 7 a.m. as the framework for this,
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but you could adopt it easily to your particular schedule.
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Phase one, which again is zero to eight hours after waking,
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has a particular neurochemical signature.
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Regardless of what you do,
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the neuromodulators norepinephrine as well as epinephrine,
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so that's noradrenaline and adrenaline,
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as well as the neuromodulator dopamine,
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tend to be elevated during that first zero to eight hours
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after waking.
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There are a number of reasons for this
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related to the fact that also cortisol
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is higher in our brain and bloodstream.
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It's a healthy level of cortisol upon waking,
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body temperature is increased, et cetera.
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And there are several things
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that perhaps we should all be doing.
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I've talked about many of these on the podcast before,
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that in addition to those chemicals,
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further support an alert and focused state.
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And I'll just list those off.
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I've done many podcasts on each of these.
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If you'd like to access those podcasts,
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you can find them in the menu of podcasts on YouTube,
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Apple, Spotify, et cetera.
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They involve, for instance,
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viewing sunlight or bright artificial light
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if you can't access sunlight
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within the first 30 minutes of waking,
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physical exercise of some kind
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in this first phase of the day,
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zero to eight hours of the day,
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ideally pretty early in that phase.
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But you know, if it has to be
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at the seven to eight hour transition point,
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that's fine too.
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Cold exposure in the form of cold showers or ice baths
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or outside with minimal clothing,
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appropriate yet minimal clothing.
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Caffeine ingestion, fasting, for instance,
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not ingesting calories also will lend itself
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to increase norepinephrine, dopamine, et cetera.
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If you are going to consume foods,
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foods that are rich in things like tyrosine,
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which is a precursor for dopamine,
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00:42:14.560
you can look up which foods are high in tyrosine.
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And for those of you that are interested in supplementation
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and like to use those routes,
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things like alpha-GPC or phenylethylamine or L-tyrosine,
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if that's in keeping with what you're able to do,
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of course, consult your doctor
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if you're going to rely on supplementation.
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What's this all about?
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Well, the already elevated norepinephrine and dopamine,
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the sunlight, exercise, cold exposure, caffeine,
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tyrosine, et cetera,
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all of those place the brain and body into a state
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in which you are better able,
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or I would say more easily able to engage in activities
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that have a high degree of limbic friction
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and where you need to override that limbic friction, right?
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00:42:58.740
We've heard that the morning is kind of sacred,
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conquer the hardest things first thing in the morning.
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And that's been discussed in the pop psychology literature
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and in the habit formation literature,
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merely from the perspective of get it out of the way
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so you can feel good about having done it.
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But what I'm referring to is quite different.
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What I'm referring to is a particular phase of day
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that after rising, after waking up that is,
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for zero to eight hours, right, in that first phase,
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your whole system is action and focus oriented.
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And we know that when you are action and focus oriented,
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and because of the neurochemicals
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that are naturally released into your brain and body,
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that you will be more likely to overcome any limbic friction
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that stands in the way of performing particular habits.
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So as you list out or think about the various habits
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that you'd like to adopt in your life,
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take the habits for which you know
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there's the highest degree of limbic friction.
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They are the hardest for you to engage in.
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They require the most activation energy
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and put those in this zero to eight hours after waking.
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This will greatly facilitate
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your performance of those new habits.
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I'm certain of that.
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And in addition to that,
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by doing them in this particular phase of the day,
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not necessarily at the same time,
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I mean, if you want to be very habitual
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and you want to do the exercise or the sunlight viewing
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always at the same time,
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or you want to do, you want to drink your caffeine
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00:44:22.020
always at the exact same time, that's fine.
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But by placing them in this broader window
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of zero to eight hours after waking,
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what you're doing is you're creating task bracketing.
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You're making it such that your nervous system will predict
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when you are going to lean in against limbic friction
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in order to perform particular types of habits.
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And this is very different than saying,
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I'm always going to run,
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or I'm always going to study from 10 to 12 AM every morning.
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That's great, and if you can do that, terrific.
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But the literature indicates that people who do that,
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who are very rigid about when they do things,
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tend, because of context dependence,
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to not necessarily stick to those habits over time.
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Some people do, but many, many people don't.
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So think about the hardest habits to form
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and the habits that you most want to form
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that are hardest for you to adopt and to maintain.
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00:45:11.640
And I highly suggest placing those somewhere
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within this phase one of zero to eight hours after waking.
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Now, of course, some of the things I listed out,
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sunlight viewing, exercise, cold exposure,
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caffeine, fasting,
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those might be the actual habits themselves.
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But here I realize, or rather I want to acknowledge
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that many people, including myself,
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are doing some or all of these things already.
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And many people, including myself,
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are trying to adopt new habits
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00:45:38.620
that don't fall into the category
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00:45:40.400
of just trying to set your overall state.
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00:45:42.800
Again, norepinephrine, dopamine,
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and all these neural systems will be greatly elevated
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in this zero to eight hours after waking.
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However, the other things I mentioned,
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sunlight exposure, exercise, cold exposure, caffeine,
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00:45:54.840
fasting, if that's for you,
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00:45:56.200
or if you're eating during that phase,
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00:45:58.620
eating things that contain some or elevated levels
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of tyrosine, maybe supplementing GPC or L-tyrosine, et cetera,
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00:46:06.120
all of those things further facilitate the neurochemistry
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and therefore the state of mind that's going to be ideal
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for leaning into limbic friction
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and overriding that limbic friction
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00:46:16.140
so that you can regularly perform that habit.
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00:46:18.120
What we're really talking about here
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is leveraging neural systems
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00:46:21.280
in order to help you make it more likely
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00:46:24.120
that you're going to be able to engage
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00:46:25.720
and maintain a particular habit.
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00:46:27.640
So what I'm referring to as phase one of each day
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00:46:30.840
is useful for acquiring certain habits,
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00:46:33.600
but there are other phases of the day
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and those turn out to be useful
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for acquiring other types of habits.
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00:46:39.680
Phase two, as I mentioned, is about,
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again, these aren't specifics,
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00:46:44.200
but about nine to 14 or 15 hours after waking.
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00:46:48.640
During this phase of the day,
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because of the circadian shifts in our biology,
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00:46:53.480
the amount of dopamine and norepinephrine
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00:46:55.280
that's circulating in our brain and bloodstream
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00:46:57.520
tends to start to come down
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00:47:00.120
and levels of cortisol tend to start to come down.
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That's the ideal circumstance.
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00:47:05.000
In fact, you don't really want elevated cortisol
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late in the day.
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00:47:08.360
That's actually a signature of depression and anxiety
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00:47:10.360
and a number of other unfortunate things.
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00:47:14.440
So nine to 14 hours after waking,
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dopamine and norepinephrine and cortisol
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are starting to taper down just naturally
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00:47:21.640
and a different neuromodulator, serotonin,
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00:47:25.240
is starting to rise.
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00:47:26.880
Serotonin is definitely going to be highest
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in this second half of the day
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00:47:31.940
and tends to lend itself to a more relaxed state of being.
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00:47:36.680
Now, of course, I do realize
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that some people are less of morning people
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and find that they really come alive
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00:47:41.560
and awake in the afternoon,
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00:47:42.620
but most people don't fall into that category.
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Most people feel more alert early in the day,
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00:47:47.600
even anxious early in the day,
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00:47:49.160
and then as the afternoon progresses,
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they tend to be a bit more sleepy,
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00:47:52.560
a bit more relaxed, a bit more calm.
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There are certain things that we all can and should do
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during this phase two of each day
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00:48:01.200
that lend themselves to a state of mind
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00:48:04.880
and a state of body that is going to be beneficial
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00:48:08.000
for the generation and consolidation
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of certain types of habits.
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What are those things?
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00:48:12.840
First of all, as the day goes on,
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00:48:15.400
you should try, if you can,
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00:48:16.600
to start tapering the amount of light that you're viewing.
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00:48:20.080
Now, this doesn't mean putting yourself into dim light
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00:48:22.440
at three o'clock or four o'clock in the afternoon.
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00:48:24.960
That's certainly not the case.
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00:48:26.520
Simply that you want to start tapering off the amount
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00:48:29.180
of really bright light that you're getting,
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00:48:30.800
unless it's sunlight.
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00:48:32.560
Talked about this before on the podcast,
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00:48:34.200
but if you haven't heard,
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00:48:35.800
viewing the sun as it's what we call low solar angle,
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00:48:39.060
so as it's headed toward the horizon,
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00:48:41.120
you don't necessarily have to watch the sunset,
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00:48:42.880
although that can be nice,
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00:48:44.160
but getting some sunlight in your eyes
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00:48:45.540
in the second half of the day can also be beneficial
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00:48:47.680
for a number of brain systems and psychological systems.
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00:48:51.040
So you can get some sunlight in your eyes.
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00:48:52.640
You can certainly have artificial lights on,
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00:48:55.520
but you want to start dimming those lights
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00:48:57.400
and bringing them actually physically lower in the room
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00:48:59.660
because the neurons in your eye
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00:49:01.760
that view the upper visual field,
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00:49:04.380
they actually trigger this alertness mechanism
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00:49:06.760
in the brain and body.
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00:49:07.600
And in the second half of the day,
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00:49:09.160
even if you're humming around and doing work
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00:49:11.360
at three or four or five or even 7 p.m.,
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00:49:14.120
you are probably headed towards sleep a few hours later.
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00:49:17.720
So things like limiting the total amount of light
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00:49:20.000
if you can, things like NSDR, non-sleep deep rest,
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00:49:24.200
another thing that I've talked about on this podcast,
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00:49:26.200
if you haven't heard about this before,
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00:49:27.420
non-sleep deep rest is an umbrella term
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00:49:29.360
for things like meditation, for yoga nidra,
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00:49:32.640
a very powerful science-supported tool
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00:49:35.280
for teaching you how to relax,
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00:49:37.720
things like self-hypnosis,
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00:49:39.240
which might sound a little kooky to some of you,
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00:49:40.840
but actually is a clinically-based tool
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00:49:42.360
for which there's a lot of scientific literature.
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00:49:44.640
If you're interested in that,
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00:49:45.580
there's a great free resource called Reveri,
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00:49:47.760
R-E-V-E-R-I.com.
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00:49:50.160
There's a app for both Apple and Android.
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00:49:53.060
This is an app that was developed
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00:49:54.400
by colleagues of mine and researchers
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00:49:55.860
at Stanford School of Medicine.
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00:49:57.580
You can do these short 15-minute self-hypnosis scripts,
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00:50:00.880
as they're called,
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00:50:01.720
that can teach you how to relax yourself.
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00:50:03.820
There's even ones for focus, for sleep, for chronic pain.
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00:50:07.200
Again, all very strongly supported
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00:50:09.040
by quality peer-reviewed literature.
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00:50:11.240
So things like reverie, meditation,
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00:50:13.800
things like heat and sauna, hot baths, hot showers,
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00:50:18.200
those are terrific things to do
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00:50:19.980
in the second half of the day.
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00:50:21.740
They tend to support this serotonergic
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00:50:24.100
or high serotonin-like state
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00:50:25.960
and lend themselves to more calm and relaxation.
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00:50:29.680
For those of you that are interested in supplementation,
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00:50:31.800
there's always ashwagandha, which reduces cortisol.
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00:50:35.600
Again, peaks in cortisol late in the afternoon and evening
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00:50:38.460
are associated with depression, anxiety, and so forth.
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00:50:41.160
Ashwagandha is a pretty potent cortisol-inhibiting tool.
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00:50:46.720
I personally don't use it very often,
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00:50:48.780
and I caution people about using it
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00:50:50.700
for longer than two-week periods of time
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00:50:52.360
without taking some breaks.
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00:50:53.640
You can look up more about ashwagandha on examine.com.
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00:50:56.960
There's a lot of terrific literature
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00:50:58.160
with links to studies there.
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00:50:59.660
But basically, this phase two of the day
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is one in which you're alert, you are present,
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00:51:04.240
you are working, you are engaging socially,
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00:51:06.160
you're cooking dinner,
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00:51:07.000
probably paying attention to a number of things,
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00:51:09.080
but you should really be trying to taper off your stress level.
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00:51:11.920
So how do you leverage phase two of the day
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00:51:13.800
for habit formation?
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00:51:15.680
Well, given what we know about the neurochemistry
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00:51:17.600
of learning and memory,
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00:51:18.640
given what we know about task formation
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00:51:20.780
and its reliance on certain forms of neuroplasticity,
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00:51:23.640
the second half of the day is a terrific time
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00:51:26.140
to take on habits and things that you're already doing
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00:51:30.920
that require very little override of limbic friction.
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00:51:34.280
So these might be things that you could categorize
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00:51:37.760
in common terms as kind of mellower activities.
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00:51:40.260
It might be journaling.
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00:51:41.820
It might be that you already are performing music
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00:51:46.120
or I should say practicing music regularly,
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00:51:48.680
but that there's a particular type of music
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00:51:50.520
that is hard for you
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00:51:51.680
or that you're working on a particular piece of music
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00:51:53.560
or you're trying to learn a language,
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00:51:54.600
something that's a little bit challenging,
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00:51:56.100
but doesn't require a ton of energy
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00:51:58.900
in order to override that limbic friction.
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00:52:01.080
The second half of the day is a much better time to do that.
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00:52:03.600
Less resistance, as we might say.
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00:52:06.520
But of course, resistance has a neural substrate.
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00:52:09.000
And the reason for doing those things
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in the second part of the day,
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00:52:11.960
the so-called phase two, as I've called it,
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00:52:14.200
part of the day,
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00:52:15.040
is because your ability to override resistance
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00:52:17.800
is really diminished in this second phase of the day.
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00:52:21.660
Some of you might say, well, wait,
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00:52:23.320
I like to exercise in the second half of the day.
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00:52:25.300
That's actually when I have the most energy.
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00:52:26.960
That's when I feel warmer.
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00:52:28.540
I'm not a morning exerciser.
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00:52:29.800
That's absolutely fine.
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00:52:31.760
What I'm referring to is the acquisition of new behaviors
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00:52:35.320
and placing those consistently
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00:52:37.280
at the second half of the day
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00:52:38.400
in order to engage this task bracketing mechanisms
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00:52:41.040
that I talked about before.
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00:52:42.920
One of the hallmark features
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00:52:44.640
of those basal ganglia circuits for go and no-go
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00:52:47.440
is that they are associated with certain neurochemicals,
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00:52:50.760
dopamine and serotonin, acetylcholine,
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00:52:52.880
and other neurochemicals.
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00:52:54.480
And by placing particular habits
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00:52:57.000
at particular phases of the day,
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00:52:58.700
those neurochemical states start to be associated
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00:53:01.200
with the leaning in and the process of beginning and,
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00:53:04.360
as I mentioned, ending those particular habits.
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00:53:06.840
And in doing so, they shift the whole nervous system
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00:53:09.720
toward being able to predict that certain things
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00:53:12.220
are going to happen at particular times of day,
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00:53:14.560
that you are going to be leaning very hard
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00:53:16.680
against limbic friction early in the day in phase one,
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00:53:19.140
and that you're going to be doing things
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00:53:20.360
that require less conscious override
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00:53:22.860
of limbic friction in phase two.
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00:53:24.240
And in doing so, set up this task bracketing system
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00:53:28.180
so that the individual habits that you're learning
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00:53:31.140
or that you're trying to learn
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00:53:32.100
have a much greater probability of being executed
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00:53:35.000
and consolidated, meaning that pretty soon
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00:53:37.920
they will just naturally become reflexive.
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00:53:40.320
And as with phase one, many of the things that I mentioned
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00:53:44.000
that support this, what I'm calling a serotonergic state
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or a more relaxed state in phase two,
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things like seeing some light in the afternoon,
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00:53:53.520
but not a lot of bright light from artificial sources,
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00:53:56.640
things like NSDR, things like heat and sauna,
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hot baths, et cetera, ashwagandha.
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00:54:02.840
Again, all of those things themselves
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could be habits that you're trying to adopt, right?
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00:54:06.960
In that case, do those if you'd like to explore them.
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00:54:10.100
They are quite beneficial for a number of reasons,
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not just related to execution of particular habits
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in phase two of the day,
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00:54:16.860
but also for improving quality of sleep
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00:54:19.300
and consolidating any learning
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00:54:20.960
that you might've triggered early in the day.
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00:54:22.580
I've talked about that before,
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but just briefly as a relevant aside,
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neuroplasticity involves triggering the neuroplasticity,
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setting it in motion,
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00:54:31.440
but the actual rewiring of the brain
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00:54:33.640
and the reconfiguration of neurons
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00:54:35.160
that will allow that learning to be reflexive,
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that actually occurs during states of deep rest,
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like NSDR and like deep sleep.
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And I should just mention for those of you
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that can only exercise or prefer to exercise
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in phase two of the day, right?
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Nine to 14 hours or 15 hours after waking,
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that's absolutely fine.
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However, because of the importance of sleep
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and in particular deep sleep throughout the night
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for not just neuroplasticity,
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but recovery of muscle and other tissues
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that are taxed during physical exercise,
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if you do train in phase two,
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I highly recommend, highly recommend
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that you start doing some sort of NSDR type activity
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after you train within an hour or two,
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because that will allow you to taper down and relax
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so that you can get into the next phase
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we're going to talk about, which is phase three.
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Phase three of the 24 hour schedule runs from about 16
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to 24 hours after waking.
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During that period of time,
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there are a few things that are going to support
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being in a state of mind, state of body
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that are going to allow neuroplasticity to occur,
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that are going to allow the rewiring that you've triggered
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during the waking part of the day to actually take place.
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Those things are very low to no light,
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meaning keeping your environment very dark
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or very, very dim.
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I don't think it's necessary to sleep in a room
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that's complete blackness.
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00:55:59.520
I think that's a little bit overkill,
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but for most people keeping the room dark
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and keeping the room temperature low
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is very beneficial for getting and staying in deep sleep.
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00:56:11.480
The body has to drop by about one to three degrees
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in order to get into sleep and to stay asleep.
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So low light, low temperature environment,
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you can always pile on blankets of course,
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00:56:21.400
if you don't want to be cold at night,
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you want to be warm enough,
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00:56:24.360
but you want your environment to be cold.
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00:56:26.480
Typically people aren't eating in the middle of the night,
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00:56:29.640
although one thing that can be useful is to make sure
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that you're at least well fed enough
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00:56:34.720
when you head into this third phase of every 24 hour day
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that you're not awake because you're hungry.
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00:56:40.520
Now, a lot of people recommend putting a gap
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between your final bite of food
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00:56:44.000
and when you go to sleep at night.
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Some people will say that gap should be four hours,
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other people say two hours.
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00:56:49.200
If you're me, I generally have something, I don't know,
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within two hours or 90 minutes of going to sleep,
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but it's not a big meal, but that's just me.
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And I fall asleep and stay asleep fine with that.
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You have to experiment for yourself.
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I've talked about supplements that can support sleep
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in previous episodes of the podcast,
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00:57:04.120
things like magnesium threonate or magnesium bisglycinate,
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00:57:07.480
things like theanine, apigenin.
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00:57:09.960
If you'd like to read more about those,
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we actually have a newsletter
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00:57:12.960
that I'll just quickly refer you to.
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00:57:14.440
This is the Huberman Lab Neural Network newsletter.
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00:57:17.620
You can sign up for it by going to hubermanlab.com.
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00:57:20.020
It's very easy to find.
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00:57:21.320
But even if you don't sign up,
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00:57:23.360
you can go to the toolkit for sleep that's listed there.
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00:57:26.400
And that toolkit is not just supplements.
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00:57:28.200
That toolkit is a number of different things,
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00:57:29.960
both behavioral and supplement-based
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00:57:32.800
and nutrition-based, et cetera,
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00:57:34.420
that can allow you to get into sleep
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00:57:37.080
and to stay asleep more readily.
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00:57:38.680
It's totally zero cost.
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00:57:39.820
You can find that again at hubermanlab.com.
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00:57:41.840
So things like low light, low temperature,
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the supplements I mentioned,
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00:57:45.300
adjusting your eating schedule appropriately,
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00:57:48.080
obviously not drinking caffeine in the middle of the night
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00:57:50.120
or too close to bed.
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00:57:51.000
That's going to be critical.
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00:57:51.920
In fact, ideally you wouldn't ingest any caffeine
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in phase two of the day
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so that you could get into this deeper state of rest
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in which habit formation and neuroplasticity can occur.
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00:58:04.400
What if you wake up, right?
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00:58:05.840
The way I've cast phase three
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is that you're supposed to be in this deep slumber.
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You're not supposed to wake up at all.
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00:58:11.320
You're supposed to be in low light
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00:58:12.640
and your brain is rewiring
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and those habits are getting consolidated, et cetera.
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00:58:16.720
Well, if you're like me,
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you probably get up once in the middle of the night.
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Maybe you go use the restroom, perfectly normal,
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perfectly normal,
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but a lot of people have trouble falling back asleep.
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00:58:25.180
Very important if you get up in the middle of the night
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00:58:26.900
to use a minimum of light
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00:58:28.160
in order to navigate your surroundings
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00:58:29.660
just as much as you need in order to safely do so,
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00:58:32.900
because light inhibits the hormone melatonin,
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00:58:35.720
can make it very hard to fall back asleep
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if you inhibit melatonin.
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The effects of light inhibiting melatonin
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are actually very potent, happens very, very quickly.
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So try and keep the lights low.
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And if you have trouble falling back asleep,
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that's when you might also want to use
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00:58:49.240
something like the Reverie app.
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00:58:51.120
They have a sleep script there
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00:58:52.360
that can hopefully help you get back to sleep
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00:58:54.480
or something like NSDR.
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00:58:55.880
You can find NSDR scripts on YouTube.
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00:58:57.920
These are zero cost.
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00:58:59.240
You can look up one that I particularly like
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is NSDR Made For.
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00:59:02.320
It's a company I'm associated with,
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00:59:04.040
but the NSDR is completely zero cost.
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00:59:06.200
And there are other things like Yoga Nidra,
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00:59:08.560
which you can find scripts for elsewhere.
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00:59:10.300
Again, all of these habits or these behaviors,
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these do's and don'ts around phase three,
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themselves might be habits
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00:59:17.360
that you're trying to create for yourself.
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00:59:19.560
But again, phase three is really about making sure
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that whatever limbic friction you've been able
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to override in phase one and trigger some new habit,
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forcing yourself to write or forcing yourself to study
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or forcing yourself to exercise
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00:59:32.480
during that high limbic friction state.
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And then whatever things you've been doing in phase two,
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which are habits that hopefully have moved
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a little bit further along the continuum
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of newly formed versus all the way to reflexive,
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or things that take less limbic friction in order to do,
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phase three is when all of that gets really locked
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into the nervous system through those Hebbian mechanisms
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like NMDA receptors, et cetera, that I talked about before.
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Again, neuroplasticity is the basis of habit formation
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and neuroplasticity and the rewiring of neural circuits
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happens in these states of deep sleep.
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So if you're not obeying this phase three,
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if you're not giving phase three the materials it needs
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and you're not avoiding the certain things like caffeine
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and bright light and stress during phase three,
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you're simply not going to be able to build those habits
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that you've been working so hard to trigger in phase one
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and phase two of the day.
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Again, these are things that I've talked about
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in previous episodes of the podcast and elsewhere,
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but really this is about habit formation.
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And the whole reason for placing particular types
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of behaviors at particular phases of the day
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is to set a framework for that task bracketing.
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Again, task bracketing and those circuits
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of the basal ganglia indicate that it's not just
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the neural circuits that are engaged by the task itself,
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but the neural circuits that are engaged
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before and after that task execution.
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That's what gets consolidated.
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So when you do things at particular phases of the day
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under particular conditions of neurochemistry,
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what you're doing is you're giving the brain
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a very predictable set of sequences that during sleep,
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it can start to put into your hard drive,
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if you will, it can really program it
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into your nervous system so that within a short period
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of time, hopefully within 18 or maybe even six days,
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or who knows, maybe even fewer days,
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you'll find that executing those behaviors
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is very, very straightforward for you
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and that you won't have to feel so much limbic friction
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or override so much limbic friction.
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Some of you are probably asking, okay,
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if I perform a particular habit during phase one,
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and then I do other habits during phase two,
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and I eventually get to the point where I'm engaging
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in those habits in a pretty effortless way,
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do I keep them in the same phase of the day?
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And the good news is the literature says it doesn't matter.
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And in fact, moving that particular habit
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around somewhat randomly can actually be beneficial to you
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because actually moving it from one time of day
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to the other is that context independence
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that we really are seeking.
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By being able to do the same thing that we want to do,
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regardless of time of day or circumstances,
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that's how we know that we've achieved
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a real habit formation.
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That's how we know that the habit has been moved
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into certain components of our neural circuitry
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that just allow us to do it what seems like reflexively,
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although earlier I pointed out that these aren't reflexes
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in the traditional sense.
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The reason for that is that this brain area,
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the hippocampus that many of you know
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is associated with learning and memory
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is not actually where memories are stored.
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The hippocampus is where memories are formed.
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It's where procedures, like I talked about before,
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procedural memory of how you're going to execute
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a particular sequence where that's maintained.
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So like if we use the recipe model,
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that's where the recipe is maintained
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until you know how to cook that dish.
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And then the procedural memory literally migrates off
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into a different set of neural circuits,
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which are the neural circuits of the neocortex,
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where we have maps of sensory experience,
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maps of all kinds of experiences,
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including motor maps of how to execute things.
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So we use one part of the brain to learn something,
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but then that information in the form
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of the electrical activity of neurons
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is passed off to a different brain area.
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Now, the neurons themselves don't move
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from the hippocampus to the cortex.
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That doesn't happen.
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What happens is the signals,
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the sequence of electrical firing,
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much like a script for a movie
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or the notes on a sheet of paper
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for a particular musical piece
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01:03:36.440
is transferred off to a different brain area.
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So that whole process of really leaning
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into something that's hard, then it becoming easier.
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And then eventually that thing becoming more
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or less reflexive involves a migration
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of the information in the brain.
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And once it's migrated out to a different location
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in the brain, at that point,
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it's achieved context independence.
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It doesn't have to be bracketed by your caffeine
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and your lunch.
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It doesn't have to occur immediately
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after your afternoon NSDR,
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but before your four o'clock meeting on Zoom
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or something of that sort.
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So all this is to say that once something
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has become reflexive,
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you should play with it a little bit about time of day.
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If you want to keep it in the same phase of day, great.
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But if you one day decide
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you're going to exercise in the afternoon,
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next day you decide you're going to exercise in the morning
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and that's the habit that you're concerned with,
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that's terrific.
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If you're able to do that,
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that means that it's truly achieved context independence.
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It means that you have officially formed that habit.
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And as I mentioned earlier,
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much earlier at the beginning of the episode,
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the strength of a habit is dictated
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by how much limbic friction, that was one,
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and how much context dependence there is.
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So when it doesn't take much activation energy
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to get into the execution of that habit,
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and you can do it in any context,
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well, then you have formed a habit.
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We really can't have a discussion
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about learning anything, habits or otherwise,
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unless we talk about reward prediction error.
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Reward prediction error
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is associated with the molecule dopamine.
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Although I should say there are other neurochemicals
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in our brain and body
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that are also related to reward prediction error.
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But reward prediction error is a very good system,
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or I should say a lens through which to think about
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whether or not we should reward ourselves
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for performing a given habit.
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And this is a much larger discussion
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that actually relates to things like parenting
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and self-regulation.
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Should we reward kids just for effort?
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Should we reward ourselves just for effort?
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What should we reward?
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How much should we reward ourselves?
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When should we withdraw reward?
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Should we use punishment?
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These kinds of things.
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This is a vast literature.
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We don't have time to go into all the details,
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but the notion of reward prediction error is so powerful
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that it can predict most, if not all forms of learning,
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including habit formation.
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And you can deploy or use particular features
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of reward prediction error
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if you would like to reinforce
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or accelerate the formation of certain habits.
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So reward prediction error, quite simply,
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is if you expect a reward and the reward comes,
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a particular behavior that was associated
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with generating that reward is more likely to occur again.
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That's pretty straightforward.
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However, the amount of reward
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in the form of this molecule dopamine
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that you will experience is even greater
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if a reward arrives that's unexpected, okay?
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So let me repeat that again.
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If I think that something's coming
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that's going to be great,
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that let's say I lean into a habit,
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I managed to override my limbic friction,
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and I'm doing my 45 minutes of writing in the morning
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with no phone and no internet,
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and I'm getting toward the end and I'm anticipating,
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oh, I'm actually doing this.
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This is great.
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I did it.
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I'm feeling really, really good.
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I finish.
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I definitely will receive a dopamine reward.
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I'll make my own dopamine reward.
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That's where it comes from.
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Remember, this is all internal.
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However, I will also receive dopamine reward
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if unexpectedly something positive happens.
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And typically, if something unexpected but positive happens,
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the amount of dopamine reward that we get
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is actually much greater than in any other conditions.
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However, it's hard to surprise yourself
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about a behavior that you're deliberately engaging in.
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So that becomes a bit of a tricky one.
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Reward prediction error also says
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that if we expect a reward and the reward doesn't come,
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that the pattern of dopamine release
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will follow a particular contour.
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And that contour is very important.
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Here's how it goes.
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Let's say that I'm writing
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and I'm about 30 or 45 minutes in,
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and I'm thinking, oh, this is great.
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I'm actually, I managed to do this.
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I'm succeeding in executing the behaviors that I need to
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in order to perform this habit.
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I'm overriding limbic friction.
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Just that series of thoughts will start to generate
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a dopamine release within my brain and body.
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However, if at the 50-minute mark,
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the phone rings and I pick up the phone
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or I break my own protocol,
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I break my own self-discipline
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and I go on and check social media
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or I do something that takes me out of that,
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what's going to happen is that my level of dopamine
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is actually going to drop below the baseline,
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meaning below the level of dopamine I had
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before I even started the habit execution, okay?
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So what this is, is this is a system
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that predicts whether or not rewards are going to come.
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When we think a reward is going to come,
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it starts to actually arrive earlier
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in the form of dopamine release.
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This is the feeling that we experience
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as in positive anticipation.
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You tell a kid, hey, we're going to go to the amusement park
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or we're going to go get ice cream.
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They haven't had the ice cream yet.
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They're not at the amusement park, but they're excited.
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The dopamine release comes earlier, okay?
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They get to the amusement park or they get the ice cream,
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they will also have some dopamine release
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associated with that.
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But most of it, believe it or not,
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came in the form of the anticipation.
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And dopamine has some qualities that make
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the actual ice cream and the actual amusement park
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experience more pleasureful than it would be
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had that dopamine release not happened.
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Now, of course, the other way to do it
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is to surprise a kid.
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You tell them, listen, we're going to the class
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that you absolutely hate,
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or we're going to go see the person
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that you absolutely despise,
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and then you drive them to the amusement park.
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That's the big release of dopamine.
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But reward prediction error also says
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that if you tell the kid or yourself,
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okay, we're headed to the amusement park,
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we're going to get some ice cream,
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they're really, really excited,
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and then you get there and it's closed
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or they're not letting any more people in,
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well, then the dopamine level drops way below what it was
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before you told them that you were headed there, okay?
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I've given a number of different examples
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that hopefully make this clear.
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Reward prediction error governs virtually all aspects
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of effort and all aspects of learning.
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Why?
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Because when dopamine is released in the brain and body,
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the neural circuits of our brain and body change.
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There's a state change.
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Our overlevel, excuse me, our overall level of energy,
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but also the sorts of sensory events
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that we're paying attention to changes
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when there's a lot of dopamine in our system.
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Now, you can leverage this for habit formation.
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Think back to task bracketing.
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Think back to limbic friction.
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If you are considering adopting a new habit
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or if you are trying to break a habit,
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something we haven't talked too much about,
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but we will in a moment,
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it's very useful to think not just about
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the procedural aspects of what you're going to do,
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but also think about the events that precede and follow
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that particular habit and the execution,
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or at least the effort to execute that habit.
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What you're doing is you're casting a kind of a spotlight
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around a bin of time or a set of events
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for which dopamine can be associated.
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What does this look like in the practical sense?
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Well, again, I'll just try and use
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very simple, concrete examples,
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but this could carry over to anything.
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Let's say I were somebody who has a hard time
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getting in that 30 to 60 minutes
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of zone two cardiovascular exercise mid-morning.
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This is actually an issue for me.
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I much prefer to do resistance exercise
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than cardiovascular exercise,
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although once I do it,
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I always feel much better that I have done it.
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What I should do is positively anticipate
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the onset and the offset of that session, right?
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So thinking about leaning into the effort,
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going out and doing that zone two cardio session,
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and I should think about how I'm going to feel after.
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So not just thinking about how great I'm going to feel after
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but also thinking about how hard it's going to be
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at the beginning and then trying to reward myself
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subjectively for the entire experience.
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In other words, start rewarding task bracketing
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in addition to rewarding the execution of the habit itself.
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Now, some of you might be saying,
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well, wait, this is all self-talk.
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This is just positive self-talk,
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but it's not positive self-talk.
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It's not saying, you know,
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I feel so great about doing something that I actually hate.
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You can't lie to yourself,
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or you're welcome to lie to yourself,
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but the neuroscience literature,
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the literature of growth mindset,
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all the literature basically of mindset
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speaks to the fact that when you lie to yourself,
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you know you're lying
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and you actually set up the opposite of a reward system.
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So you have to be brutally honest with yourself
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that for instance,
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I don't like initiating this cardiovascular exercise,
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but I do like the fact that I've done it after I've done it.
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So what you are doing
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is you are applying reward prediction error
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to the entire sequence of things that's involved
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in getting into the habit execution,
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getting through the habit execution
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and getting out of the habit execution.
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How do you do this?
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Well, I take us back to our procedural
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memory visualization exercise that we talked about earlier.
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When I talked about it in that context,
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I talked about walking through mentally
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the series of steps that's required
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to perform a particular habit.
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So in the case of the zone two cardio thing,
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it would be, okay, I'm going to put on my shoes.
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Then I'm going to head out the door.
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Then I'm going to drive up the road.
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There's a particular canyon near here
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that if I'm going to run, I happen to like running
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or I don't hate running enough that I tend to do it.
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Going through that, heading back, et cetera, et cetera.
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That's great, but even better
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would be to broaden the time bin
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and start to positively anticipate
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the period headed into the habit.
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So even before you put on your shoes,
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the fact that you are successfully placing the habit in,
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in this case, phase one of the day,
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and that afterwards I'm going to feel
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a particular set of positive benefits,
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elevated mood, et cetera.
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I like being hungry and typically after exercise,
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I'm hungry, so I like being hungry because I like eating.
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And so there's a whole set of things
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that link up with one another.
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So I'm not just thinking about habit execution
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as this isolated little set of events
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or this little time bin,
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but rather I'm drawing a larger envelope around it
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and starting to positively associate dopamine reward
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with that larger envelope.
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And for those of you that are thinking,
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well, this is just a psychological trick.
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This is sort of like lying to yourself.
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It's not because you're not actually contradicting the fact
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that some of this is unpleasant.
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What you're doing is you're taking this entire series
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of events, what I'm calling this kind of time envelope,
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and you're associating it with a particular reward
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that comes later, which for me would be the feeling
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that I've completed this, right?
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Because for me, that's usually a good feeling.
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So reward prediction error is beautiful,
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not just because it's a sort of math of anticipation
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and reward or a math of anticipation and disappointment.
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It's beautiful because you can stretch out
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or make more narrow the time bins
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in which reward prediction error works.
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Reward prediction error is the way
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in which people navigate four-year degrees, right?
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I mean, you go, sure, final exam to final exam, et cetera,
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but ultimately there's a big payoff at the end
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and it's all basically for that big payoff.
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And of course I understand that it's the journey,
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not the destination, but let's face it for a lot of us,
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goals and habits are about achieving
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some sort of destination.
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In the case of zone two cardio, for me,
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it's about trying to stay alive for as long as I can,
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as long as I can with vitality that is.
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And it's also the fact that if I'm doing that,
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I get to eat the foods that I like,
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I tend to be able to eat more,
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which I happen to really enjoy eating so much so
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that I'd like it just as an activity.
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So basically what you're trying to do
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is not restrict your thinking to just the habit
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that you're trying to form,
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but rather to grab a hold of the timing
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before and after that particular habit
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and start to positively associate reward mechanisms
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in your brain with that entire time bin.
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This is a very useful and very powerful tool
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in order to form habits.
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And I should say that it's not something
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that comes naturally to most people.
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In fact, even as I describe it,
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you might find it's still a little bit abstract,
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but what I encourage you to do
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if you are finding it to be a little bit vague
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would be to pick the habit that you want to form,
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write down or think about very concretely
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what is the sequence of steps involved
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in the execution of that habit,
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and then write down or think about
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what is the sequence of events
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that need to precede that habit,
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maybe the immediate 10 or 15 minutes before,
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as well as the immediate sequence of events
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and or feelings that will occur after that habit,
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and then call the whole thing a habit execution,
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the whole thing a effort to engage in that particular habit.
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And in doing that and in positively associating
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with the idea that you're going to complete
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that entire sequence,
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you will engage reward prediction error
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in the proper way that the dopamine surge
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can lend itself toward motivation.
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Because ultimately dopamine is not about feeling good,
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it's about feeling motivated.
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This is something that I've talked about
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numerous times before,
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but dopamine, contrary to popular belief,
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is not a reward molecule as much as is a molecule
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of motivation and drive.
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And the natural consequence of doing the exercise
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I just described of writing things out that precede,
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are involved in the immediate execution of the habit
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and follow the habit,
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will allow you to experience an increase in energy
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and thereby an increase in likelihood
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that you're going to engage
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in that entire sequence of events.
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And the reason for that is that dopamine gives us energy.
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And the reason for that is that the molecule epinephrine,
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adrenaline, is actually manufactured from dopamine.
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Biochemically, it comes from dopamine.
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So dopamine is powerful
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and you can access more dopamine around
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even habits that you haven't yet formed
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by taking this broader time envelope
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and task bracketing that specific task execution
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or habit execution.
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Way back at the beginning of the episode,
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I promised you that I would deliver two programs
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that are geared towards habit formation.
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And I promised that I would give you ways
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in which you could gauge whether or not certain habits
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had moved from high effort,
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what I call high limbic friction, to reflexive.
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We talked about a number of ways to gauge that.
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In researching this episode,
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I found a tremendous number of different systems
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for habit formation.
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It's really amazing how much is out there.
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There are ones that are 60 days to this
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or 21 days to that or 18 days to this.
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I mean, it's just rampant
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in the popular psychology literature
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and in the self-help literature.
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I want to spell out a particular system
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that I think could be very useful
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to most if not all people
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that's rooted in the biology of habit formation,
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rooted in the psychology of habit formation,
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and that is entirely compatible
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with that phase one, phase two, phase three type program
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that I talked about earlier,
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but encompasses a bit of a longer time scale
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and really arrives at a kind of a system, if you will,
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for how to build in habits
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and then to test whether or not those habits
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have really stuck
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and whether or not they're likely to stick going forward.
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And so this is, at least for sake of this example,
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a 21-day system.
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I picked 21 days because that seems to be the average
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or most typical system for engaging neuroplasticity
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as it relates to the formation of new habits.
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This 21-day system actually is one
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that someone I know very well uses
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and has used for a long time.
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They actually use them, their kids use it as well,
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and it has a certain elegance to it.
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And I think as I describe it,
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that elegance will begin to reveal itself.
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So basically what this involves is you set out
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to perform six new habits per day
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across the course of 21 days.
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Why six and why 21?
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Well, we'll talk about that in a moment,
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but the idea is you write down six things
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that you would like to do every day for 21 days.
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What phase of the day those things fall into?
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Well, that will depend on what they are
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and how they relate to those earlier phase one,
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phase two, phase three.
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But for now, 21 days, six things per day.
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However, the expectation is that you'll only complete
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four to five of those each day, okay?
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So built into this is a kind of permission to fail,
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but it's not failure because it turns out
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that this approach to forming habits
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is based not so much on the specific habits
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that you're trying to form,
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but the habit of performing habits, right?
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It's the habit of doing a certain number of things
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per day.
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So you set out to perform six.
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Now, another reason for not necessarily performing all six
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is that some activities
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probably shouldn't be performed each day.
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For instance, in my case,
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if I were to weight train or even run every day,
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I'm of the sort, or my biology is of the sort
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that I don't recover so well.
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So I wouldn't want to do resistance training every day,
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but I might want to do it four days a week, for instance.
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So by having six things in that list,
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I could shuffle out that particular activity
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on particular days of the week.
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And simply do four or five other activities.
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So 21 days, you list out four to five things.
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So it might be zone two cardio, resistance training,
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sunlight viewing, writing.
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It could be journaling.
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It could be learning a language, mathematics.
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Again, this is going to vary
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depending on your particular goals
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and the habits that you're trying to create.
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But no more than six.
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And the expectation is that you're not going to perform
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more than four to five.
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If you miss a day,
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meaning you don't perform four to five things,
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there is no punishment.
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And in fact,
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it's important that you don't actually try and do
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what in the literature is called a habit slip compensation,
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which is just fancy psychological language
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for if you screw up and you don't get all four or five
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in one day,
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you don't do eight the next day in order to compensate.
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This actually brings me back to an example
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I had from graduate school.
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I remember when I started graduate school feeling
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very excited, but a little bit overwhelmed
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by the amount of things that I had to do
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because I had to both do research.
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I was doing coursework at the time,
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graduate student stipends,
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and still now unfortunately were depressingly low.
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So it was financially stressful.
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There were a number of things happening.
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And I remember a neurologist,
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this was at UC Berkeley,
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it's really fantastic scientist and person.
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His name is Bob Knight.
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Some of you may know him.
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I remember I went to him and I asked,
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what is the process by which someone actually navigates
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graduate school successfully?
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And he said, listen,
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you don't want to do anything or engage in a routine
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in any way that you can't keep up consistently
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for at least five and ideally six days per week.
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I thought, oh, that's pretty good.
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And he said, every four or five years,
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you might have to update that,
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but you need to decide what you can do consistently,
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what you can do every day or at least six days a week
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or five days a week.
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And that was very, very useful to me.
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And it fits well with this notion of habit slips
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that if you happen to screw up
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and not be able to engage in whatever habits
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you're trying to learn for whatever reason,
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that the next day you just get right back on the horse,
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so to speak.
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However, there's a really interesting feature
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from the neuroscience literature
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and from the psychology literature
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that says that chunking this 21 days into two day bins
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can be very, very useful.
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While it is true that the unit of the day
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that our cells use is a circadian one, a 24 hour clock,
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there does seem to be something powerful
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about engaging in particular habits
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in a particular sequence for two days in a row
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and then resetting.
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So thinking, okay, I can do this for a day.
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And if I can do it for a day,
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I can probably do it for two days and then resetting.
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So every two days you're resetting.
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So you're kind of chunking this 21 days
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into a series of two day bins
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in which you are trying to perform four to five new habits
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and then completing that 21 days.
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Now, everything I've described about this 21 day program
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with six things that you're trying to do as new habits
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and only performing four to five and not compensating,
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et cetera.
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There's nothing neuroscientifically unique about it,
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except for the fact that it's not just 21 days
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broken up into two day chunks.
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After 21 days, you stop engaging in this 21 day
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deliberate four to five things per day type schedule.
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And you simply go into autopilot.
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You ask yourself how many of those particular habits
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that I was deliberately trying to learn
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in the previous 21 days
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are automatically incorporated into my schedule.
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How many of them am I naturally doing?
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In other words, every 21 days,
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you don't update and start adding new habits.
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You simply try and maintain the ones that you built
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in that first 21 days.
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And this I think is extremely important
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because in all of the habit literature that I could find,
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sure, there was a lot of psychological data,
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neuroscience data, behavioral science data around,
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here's how you form a habit.
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Here's how you break a habit.
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There was even some kind of tests for whether or not
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a habit had really achieved context independence,
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whether or not it was a strongly formed habit.
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But there wasn't a lot of information,
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at least by my search of what to do
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once you've formed a habit
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and how to evaluate whether or not that habit
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is likely to persist long into the future.
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So here's the idea.
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You set out these six things that you would like to learn
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or that you would like to acquire in your life,
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these habits.
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You only expect that you're going to perform
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four or five each day.
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You do that for 21 days.
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Again, if you miss a day,
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you just hop right back on the next day.
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However, you should think about the functional units
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within this 21 day period as two days.
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You're going to try and nail four to five of these things
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for two days.
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If you happen to get all six, great,
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but that's not necessarily required.
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So you can do two days, then reset two days,
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then reset two days.
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And then in the next 21 days,
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you're not trying to acquire any new habits.
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You're not going to throw in six more habits
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that you want to learn.
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01:25:38.960
You're simply going to assess how well,
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how deeply you've rewired your nervous system
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to be able to perform those six habits
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of the previous 21 days.
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And this is extremely useful, I believe,
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because it will allow you to assess whether or not
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you can indeed make room, if you even have room,
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I should say, for more habits, right?
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Many people are trying to cram so many new behaviors
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into their nervous system that they don't stand a chance
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of learning all those behaviors.
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What you may find is that you kept up two of those things
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very consistently throughout the 21 days.
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And perhaps there was one of them that you did sporadically
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and that there were three others that, frankly,
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you didn't manage to execute.
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You may also be one of these people, one of these mutants,
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that sets out to do six new things per day for 21 days
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and performs every single one of them.
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Terrific, more power to you in that case
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for the following 21 days.
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Let's see whether or not you can continue to perform
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those very same six things every day for 21 days.
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And then, and only then,
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would you want to add more habits in.
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So you could repeat this 21 day process,
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21 days of new habit, 21 days of testing those new habits
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as whether or not they're reflexive or not.
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You could do that forever if you wanted.
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But the idea is that this isn't something
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that you're doing all year long.
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It's that you perhaps starting the new year,
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or regardless of when you're listening to this,
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you set out to make that 21 day,
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really the stimulus period in which the habits get wired in.
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And then the following month,
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and maybe even the following months or periods of 21 days
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are really that kind of thermometer or the test bed
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of how well you've embedded those particular habits.
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And if indeed you want to continue to add new habits
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or you find that certain habits that you weren't able
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to embed in your nervous system and make reflexive,
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01:27:22.800
you want to then bring those in, fantastic.
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01:27:25.080
But it's only once you've achieved all those six habits
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as reflexive that you would move forward.
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And I think this sort of system,
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while it could have been replaced
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01:27:33.720
with many other different systems,
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01:27:35.680
again, there's nothing holy about the system,
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01:27:37.880
but this particular system has a number of features,
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the lack of compensation for missed days,
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01:27:43.360
the fact that it's a fairly high intensity program
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for 21 days, but then you test yourself
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01:27:48.520
a kind of a competition test with yourself, if you will.
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01:27:51.920
Those features and the fact that habit slips,
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missing of particular habits and not doing all six
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is kind of built into the system,
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I think makes it a very reasonable one.
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It's very adaptable to the real world.
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And I think it's one that provided you obey the phase one,
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phase two, phase three type system
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that we talked about earlier,
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you collapse these two programs with one another,
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which hopefully will be easy
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based on the descriptions I've given.
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Well, if you do that,
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and I think there's a very high probability
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that the habits that you try and form
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will achieve this context dependence
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and that it will take progressively
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less and less limbic friction to perform them.
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01:28:26.480
Thus far, we've almost exclusively been discussing
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how to form habits, but what about breaking habits?
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Certainly many people out there would like to break habits
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that they feel don't serve them well.
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One of the challenges in breaking habits
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is that many habits occur very, very quickly.
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And so there isn't an opportunity to intervene
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until the habit has already been initiated
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01:28:48.120
and in some cases completed.
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01:28:50.480
Well, there are a couple of tools
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that neuroscience and psychology
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01:28:54.520
tell us can be very beneficial.
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Some of those things are somewhat intuitive
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and relate to what I call foundational practices,
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meaning things that set the overall tone
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in your body and brain,
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01:29:06.040
such that you would be less likely
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to engage in a particular habit
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01:29:10.200
or that would raise your level of awareness,
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both of your situation and to how you feel inside.
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So things like stress reduction,
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01:29:18.400
things like getting good sleep,
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01:29:19.720
things like quality nutrition,
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01:29:21.200
things like having positive routines
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01:29:23.320
arranged throughout your day,
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01:29:24.760
all of those of course will support you
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in trying to break particular habits.
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01:29:29.720
And while that can be very useful,
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it's admittedly very generic advice.
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01:29:34.120
It doesn't point to any one specific protocol.
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In order to identify a specific protocol
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that one could apply in order to break habits,
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01:29:42.220
we have to look at the mirror image
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of the sort of neuroplasticity that we talked about
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at the beginning of the episode.
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At the beginning of the episode,
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we talked about a form of neuroplasticity
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called long-term potentiation
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involving the NMDA receptor.
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Just to refresh your memory a little bit,
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it basically says that if a set of neurons
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is very electrically active,
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it's likely that over time,
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those neurons will communicate with themselves more easily
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because of changes in things like NMDA receptor activity,
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the recruitment of additional receptors, et cetera.
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01:30:12.700
It's essentially a cellular and molecular explanation
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for how something goes from unlearned to learned
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to reflexive.
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01:30:20.960
Now, in order to break synapses
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or to break apart neural connections
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01:30:25.600
that are serving a habit that you don't want to engage in,
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we need to engage the process called long-term depression.
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And long-term depression has nothing to do
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with a state of mental depression or a reduction in mood.
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So I really want to be clear
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that when I say depression in this context,
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it has nothing to do with psychological depression,
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it has nothing to do with mood.
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It's simply called long-term depression
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because just as long-term potentiation says,
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if neuron A triggers the firing of neuron B
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and it does so very robustly over and over and over again,
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then neuron A will not have to fire as intensely
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or as frequently in order to activate neuron B in the future
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because they become potentiated, right?
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The threshold for co-activation has been reduced.
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There's a much higher probability
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that they will be activated together
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at low levels of intensity.
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That's essentially what long-term potentiation is.
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Long-term depression says that if neuron A is active
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and neuron B is not active within a particular time window,
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then the connection between neuron A and B
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will weaken over time
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even if they started off very strongly connected, okay?
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So I'm going to repeat that
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because this is a pretty detailed neurobiological mechanism
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whereby if neuron A is active and neuron B is active
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but at a different time or outside of particular
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what we call temporal window,
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meaning outside a particular time window,
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then through long-term depression,
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the connection between neuron A and neuron B will weaken.
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And just as a point of interest,
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the NMDA receptor is also involved in long-term depression,
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although there are other molecular components
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involved as well.
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So how do you take two neurons
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that underlie a habit out of synchrony?
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How do you get them to fire asynchronously?
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This is pretty interesting
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with respect to the cellular molecular biology,
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but at the behavioral level, it's especially interesting.
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The way that one would do this is let's say, for instance,
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you have a habit of picking up your phone mid-work session.
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Okay, that's a reflexive habit
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I think that most people have experienced.
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And we often hear the idea that, oh, you know,
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the phone is so filled with access to dopamine
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and incredible things that we're just drawn to it.
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But if you notice what's happened with phone use over time,
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most people, including myself sometimes, I admit,
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find ourselves just looking at our phone
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or find ourselves in a particular app
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without actually having engaged in the conscious set
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of steps of, oh, I'm really curious
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what's going on in this particular app.
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I'm really curious what's going on
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in this particular website.
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And you just kind of find yourself, in air quotes,
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for those of you listening, I'm making air quotes,
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you just sort of find yourself doing it
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because the behavior of picking up your phone
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is sort of reflexive or has become fully reflexive.
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You see this a lot at meals where multiple people are there
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and no one's looking at their phone.
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And then all of a sudden someone takes out their phone
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and you'll notice that other people
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just naturally take out their phone.
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It's this kind of observed, observation-induced reflex.
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And I would wager that most people aren't consciously aware
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of the immediate steps involved.
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So the literature says there are a number of ways
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to break these sorts of habitual behaviors
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or reflexive behaviors.
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01:33:40.980
Most of those approaches involve establishing
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some sort of reward for not performing the activity
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or some sort of punishment for forming the activity.
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I've heard of some basic things that people will do,
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like they'll even put like a rubber band on their wrist
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and every time they complain
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or every time they do some behavior,
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like pick up their phone,
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they'll give themselves a snap on the wrist.
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The rationale there is that you're trying to create
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a somatic, a very physical representation of something
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that makes it very real and harder to overlook.
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Other people will just do a tick mark on a piece of paper.
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The sort of what gets measured
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is what gets managed kind of mindset,
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where if every time you do something,
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you take away the judgment,
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this is very new agey, I realize,
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but this is what you find out there
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if you search the literature and even on PubMed,
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peer-reviewed articles,
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that every time you engage in a behavior,
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you just measure the fact that you did that behavior.
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You just mark it down at the end of the day.
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People are supposed to look at that and say,
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oh my goodness, I can't believe that I spent, you know,
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three hours doing something or I did it 46 times.
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And in fact, a lot of apps, social media apps,
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will start to give you warnings now if you opt in
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that you've been on the app for an hour,
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would you like to leave?
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Most people just click right past it and go back in.
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I think very few people say,
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oh my goodness, it's been an hour
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and therefore you're right,
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I absolutely shouldn't engage in this anymore.
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It's just far too easy to just blow past those reminders.
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01:35:04.740
Well, the literature on habit formation
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and habit reduction, breaking habits, has been analyzed.
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01:35:12.580
There's a beautiful meta-analysis,
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which involves looking at a number of different studies
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all together, comparing the statistical strength
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of each of those studies, looking in different conditions,
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what sorts of habits we're trying to be made or broken.
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01:35:26.760
The first author on this review is Fritz, F-R-I-T-Z.
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I'll certainly put a link to this.
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It's Heather Fritz and it's
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01:35:34.960
Intervention to Modify Habits, a scoping review.
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01:35:37.360
And it is indeed a very broad scale review.
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01:35:39.100
It's from the Journal of Occupation,
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01:35:40.340
Participation, and Health.
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It's published in 2020.
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It's a really nice article.
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01:35:44.420
A couple of things I learned from this article
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and then I'll get into the specific tool
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for breaking habits.
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01:35:48.740
Perhaps the most interesting thing
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that I took from this review was the finding
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that notifications to either engage in habits
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or to not engage in habits
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01:35:58.820
actually were not very effective over time.
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01:36:01.580
They were effective in the immediate period
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when people started using these notifications,
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as were little sticky notes,
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01:36:07.440
like don't go into the refrigerator
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between the hours of whatever and whatever,
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or just visual reminders, physical reminders,
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or electronic reminders were effective
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in the immediate term,
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but in the longterm did not predict
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whether or not people would effectively stick to habits
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they were trying to stick to
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or break habits that they were trying to break.
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01:36:25.940
So sadly, that doesn't seem to work very well.
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And perhaps they just need to come up with
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more robust reminders,
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I don't know, mild electric shock or something like that,
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because what we do know,
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only sort of kidding about mild electric shock,
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but what we do know from both human and animal studies
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is that things like electric shock,
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things like monetary penalties, right?
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Having to pay out every time you engage
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in a particular behavior,
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those are pretty effective ways to break habits.
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The problem is when people are not being monitored
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for habit use, for instance,
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you can imagine a situation where you say,
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I'm not going to pick up my phone
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for the four hours in the early part of the day
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so that I can get real dedicated focus work done.
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Unless someone's monitoring them,
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then people don't tend to monitor themselves
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completely enough that they punish themselves
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completely enough that they break the behavior.
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In other words, the punishment isn't bad enough
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in order to break the habit,
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which just speaks to how powerful these habits are
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once they become reflexive.
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They're just very, very hard to override.
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So it turns out that the key to generating
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long-term depression in these pathways
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is actually to take the period immediately following
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the bad habit execution,
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meaning let's say you tell yourself
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you're not going to pick up your phone,
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01:37:41.900
you're not going to bite your nails,
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you're not going to reflexively walk to the refrigerator
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at a particular time of day,
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but you find yourself doing it anyway.
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And what actually has to happen
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is bringing conscious awareness to the period
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immediately afterward,
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which I think most people recognize,
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they realize, oh, I just did it again.
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I just did it again.
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And in that moment, capture the sequence of events,
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not that led to the bad habit execution,
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but actually to take advantage of the fact
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that the neurons that were responsible
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for generating that bad habit were active a moment ago,
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and to actually engage in a replacement behavior
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immediately afterward.
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01:38:19.420
Now, this is really interesting and I think powerful
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because I would have thought that you have to engage
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in a replacement behavior that truly replaces
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the bad habit behavior, right?
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That you would have to be able to identify
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your state of mind or the sequence of events
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leading into the bad habit,
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but rather the stage or the period immediately
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after the bad habit execution is a unique opportunity
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to insert a different type of what we would call
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adaptive behavior, but that could be any behavior
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that's not in line with the bad behavior.
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So let's give it an example.
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Let's say you find yourself,
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you're trying to do focused work,
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you pick up your phone,
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01:38:56.180
you're disappointed in yourself for picking up your phone.
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01:38:59.540
You could of course just put it down
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and re-engage in the work behavior.
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But if you were good at that,
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then you probably wouldn't have done it in the first place.
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01:39:07.540
And so what turns out to be very effective
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is to go engage in some other positive habit.
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01:39:12.920
Now, this has two major effects.
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The first one is you start to link in time
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the execution of a bad behavior
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to this other good behavior.
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And in doing so, you start to recruit other neural circuits,
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other neurons that can start to somewhat dismantle
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01:39:30.500
the sequence of firing associated with the bad behavior.
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In other words, you start to create a kind of a double habit
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that starts with a bad habit
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and then ends with a good habit.
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And that seems to create enough of a temporal mismatch
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so that then recognizing when you're heading
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toward the bad habit becomes more apparent to you.
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So again, I want to make this very, very concrete.
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Let's say that the behavior
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is reflexively picking up one's phone.
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You do that, you think, oh goodness, I did it again.
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Here's what I'm going to do.
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You would set that down
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and then you would engage in some other positive behavior
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that you've deemed positive.
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And here it's very subjective.
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So it's hard for me to give an example
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that will necessarily make sense to everybody,
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but perhaps you're working on hydration.
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So maybe you go have a glass of water.
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01:40:14.320
Maybe you are trying to do breath work or something.
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Maybe you are trying to enhance
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your language speaking skills.
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And so you go and you spend five minutes
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doing a particular type of language learning.
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01:40:28.040
You literally exit whatever you are doing
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and perform that other new positive habit
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in the immediate period right after that,
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even for a short period of time.
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It's a little bit counterintuitive,
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but what this does is it creates a kind of a cognitive
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and a temporal mismatch between the initial bad behavior,
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which before is what we would call sort of a closed loop
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and the engineers out there
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will know what I'm talking about.
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01:40:50.540
But in closed loop,
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01:40:51.580
so one behavior or one set of neural firings
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leads to another, leads to another,
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01:40:56.060
and then just kind of sets the same thing in motion.
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It can be kind of a self-perpetuating system.
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By changing the number of features that are in that loop,
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it disrupts the closed nature of that loop.
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It creates what we call an open loop.
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And in an open loop, you are better able to intervene.
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01:41:11.540
So as I mentioned before, this might seem counterintuitive.
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You might think, why would I want to reward the execution
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of a bad habit with a good habit?
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01:41:19.860
I don't want to reward myself for the bad habit,
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01:41:22.100
but really what you're trying to do
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is you're trying to change the nature of the neural circuits
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01:41:26.580
that are firing so that you can rewrite the script
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for that bad habit.
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A different way to put it would be imagine
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that the bad habit is like a chord on the piano
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that you play or a chord of notes
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or a sequence of notes that you would play.
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01:41:42.500
And it comes very easily.
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You can play it every single time.
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01:41:45.820
But let's say, as you're trying to learn a new piece
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of music, you're just constantly inserting that
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at the inappropriate times.
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01:41:51.340
I think it's a decent enough analogy for a bad habit
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because it involves some motor execution.
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01:41:55.620
You just find yourself doing it.
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01:41:57.260
Rather than trying to prevent yourself from doing it,
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01:41:59.740
the next time you do it, add in a new quarter sequence
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01:42:03.700
that you're trying to learn.
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01:42:05.680
What this does then is it changes the whole nature
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of the sequence of neurons that are firing from bad habit
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01:42:11.700
through to the end of this newly applied good habit.
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01:42:15.460
So this is the way in which you start to dismantle,
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01:42:19.340
or when I say dismantle, really weaken the likelihood
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that if neuron A fires, neuron B will fire.
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01:42:25.100
Because as you're starting off in the mode
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of very reflexively performing a bad habit,
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01:42:30.740
those neurons are firing together
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01:42:32.620
without you consciously being aware of it.
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01:42:34.660
It's almost impossible for you to intervene in yourself
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01:42:38.820
without a number of other features like severe punishment,
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01:42:42.380
severe consequence type outcomes.
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01:42:45.260
Rather tacking on some additional sequences,
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01:42:48.000
like if neuron A fires, neuron B fires,
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01:42:50.580
and then you're saying, okay, well, if neuron B fires,
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01:42:53.220
I'm going to start inserting neuron CDEF to fire, right?
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01:42:57.580
That's the CDEF being the positive behavior
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01:43:00.860
that you're going to insert.
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01:43:02.020
And in doing so, you create a chain of neuronal activation
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01:43:05.400
that then is very easy to dismantle.
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01:43:07.820
And so when people have applied this kind of approach,
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01:43:11.460
it removes the need to have constant conscious awareness
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01:43:15.380
of one's own behavior prior to that behavior,
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01:43:18.420
which is very, very difficult to achieve.
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01:43:20.920
Rather, what they find is that they are able to engage
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01:43:24.420
in remapping of the neural circuits
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01:43:26.460
associated with bad habits
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01:43:27.700
in ways that are very, very straightforward, right?
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01:43:30.820
Because you can always identify
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01:43:32.540
when you've done the thing you don't want to do,
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01:43:34.180
and then tack onto that something additional
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01:43:36.620
that's positive.
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01:43:37.680
Now, the nature of that positive thing is important.
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01:43:40.680
You don't want it to be something
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01:43:41.740
that's very hard to execute.
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01:43:42.980
You want it to be something that's positive
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01:43:44.580
and fairly easy to execute
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01:43:46.360
so that you're not struggling all the time
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01:43:48.060
to insert this on top of this bad behavior,
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01:43:51.340
whatever that bad behavior might happen to be.
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01:43:53.500
But again, this is rooted
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01:43:54.620
in the biology of long-term depression.
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01:43:56.780
It maps very well to the behavioral change literature
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01:43:59.620
that I was able to glean that really shows
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01:44:01.380
that rather than just get reminders,
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01:44:03.220
rather than try and instill punishment,
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01:44:04.900
rather than setting up reward for breaking bad habits,
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01:44:07.740
that perhaps the simplest way to approach this
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01:44:10.100
is to tack on additional behaviors to the bad habits,
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01:44:13.580
make sure those behaviors are good behaviors
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01:44:15.980
or behaviors that are adaptive for you.
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01:44:18.220
And in doing so, you will soon find
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01:44:20.620
that the initiation of the bad habit
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01:44:22.460
takes on a whole new form
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01:44:23.620
or that you're not even inspired to do it at all.
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01:44:26.220
And of course, I want to acknowledge
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that breaking bad habits is really hard.
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01:44:30.460
We had an episode all about addiction
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with Dr. Anna Lemke from Stanford Medical School.
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01:44:36.100
She's a colleague of mine
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01:44:37.420
who runs the dual diagnosis addiction clinic at Stanford.
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01:44:41.180
And in that episode, we talked a lot about how addicts,
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01:44:44.120
for drugs, alcohol, people who have addictions
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01:44:47.400
to certain types of behaviors or avoidance behaviors even,
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01:44:50.500
that in the case of addiction,
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01:44:51.780
there has to be a tremendous kind of full-scale campaign
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01:44:55.420
for them to be able to intervene in their behavior.
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01:44:57.500
So for those of you that are thinking
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01:44:58.580
about bad habit breaking
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01:44:59.660
in the context of addictive type behaviors,
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01:45:03.320
definitely check out that episode.
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01:45:05.140
Addiction does employ some of these principles
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01:45:07.620
around habit making and habit breaking, as it were.
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01:45:11.980
But of course, because the consequences
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01:45:14.920
of certain habits in addiction can be so severe,
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01:45:18.140
there's other sets of protocols
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01:45:19.980
and there's a kind of a psychological backdrop to it
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01:45:22.060
that's very important.
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01:45:23.160
It also relates to the biology of dopamine
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01:45:25.020
and you can find all of that in the episode
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with Dr. Anna Lemke.
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01:45:28.440
So today we've covered a lot about the biology
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01:45:31.300
and psychology of habit formation and habit breaking.
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01:45:35.000
We talked about why certain habits are so hard to wire in,
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01:45:40.260
why certain habits are so hard to break down and eliminate,
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01:45:43.960
and how we can determine which habits
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01:45:47.140
are going to be easier for us to access,
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01:45:49.580
which habits are going to be harder
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01:45:50.940
for us to access and break.
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01:45:53.420
We talked a lot about this notion of limbic friction
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01:45:55.880
and we talked about context dependence.
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01:45:57.740
And we talked about a number of different things
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01:46:00.940
as it relates to neural circuits
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01:46:02.560
and the formation of new connections in the brain
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01:46:05.000
and strengthening and weakening of connections in the brain.
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01:46:07.880
We also discussed two programs,
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01:46:10.340
programs designed specifically for you
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01:46:12.160
on the basis of the neurobiology literature
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01:46:15.020
and the literature on the psychology of habit formation
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01:46:17.400
and habit breaking.
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01:46:18.500
Just to briefly recap,
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01:46:21.140
one program involves dividing the 24 hour day
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01:46:24.380
into three phases, phase one, phase two, phase three,
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01:46:27.660
and to try and tackle specific habits
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01:46:30.260
at particular phases of the 24 hour cycle.
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01:46:33.860
The second program involved a 21 day process
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01:46:37.560
of engaging approximately six new habits per day,
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01:46:41.700
although the expectation, as I mentioned earlier,
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01:46:43.460
is that you're not going to perform all six of those,
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01:46:46.120
and an assessment in the following 21 days
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as to whether or not you have indeed
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01:46:50.500
formed those new habits or not.
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01:46:52.700
And there were a number of other features that I mentioned
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that were related to those two general programs,
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01:46:57.140
phase one, phase two, phase three,
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01:46:58.700
and the 21 day program and how those could be meshed
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01:47:01.460
together.
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01:47:02.420
So I'm guessing some of you will probably have questions
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about those programs and how to apply them,
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01:47:06.900
but hopefully they were clear enough for you to get started.
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01:47:09.860
This is a good opportunity for me to mention
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that the Huberman Lab Podcast has something called
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the Neural Network Newsletter that is sent out
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01:47:17.440
approximately once a month.
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01:47:19.580
For the next newsletter,
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01:47:21.140
I will release a on paper version of these two systems
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01:47:25.940
and how they mesh together for habit formation
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01:47:28.060
and habit breaking.
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01:47:29.380
And if you'd like to access that,
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01:47:31.340
you can go to HubermanLab.com, you go to the menu,
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you can sign up for the newsletter.
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01:47:35.500
First of all, it's zero cost.
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Second of all, we have our privacy policy there,
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but I can tell you right now,
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Those emails stay internal to us.
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And if you'd like to see what the sort of flavor
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of those newsletters is, the previous newsletters,
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for instance, one on tools for sleep
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that I mentioned earlier or tools for neuroplasticity
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for teachers and for students of various kinds,
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those are also posted there.
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So you can access any of the previous newsletters.
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My hope is that today you've learned
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both the biological mechanisms and the practical tools
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by which you can start to establish habits that for you,
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you deem adaptive, healthy,
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and that are going to support you and your goals.
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And that you can start to dismantle some of the habits
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that you find to be unhealthy or maladaptive for you
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In addition, we have a Patreon.
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During today's podcast and in many previous episodes
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While supplements aren't necessary for everybody,
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many people derive tremendous benefit from supplements.
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Supplements for sleep, supplements for focus,
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One key issue anytime there's a discussion about supplements
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There I teach neuroscience and neuroscience related tools
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Some of that material overlaps
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Some of it is unique and different
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from what's on the podcast.
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And once again, I want to thank you
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for going on this journey of exploring the neuroscience
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and the psychology of habit formation and habit breaking.
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I hope it supports you in your goals.
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And last, but certainly not least,
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thank you for your interest in science.
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And I'll see you in the next one.